Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:51:01 -0700 From: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> To: Sam Leffler <sam@errno.com> Cc: freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: boot ordering and syslogd Message-ID: <47E83055.9070809@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <47E82201.3000502@errno.com> References: <47E809EE.4080809@errno.com> <47E81D12.5090201@FreeBSD.org> <47E81DD1.8050205@errno.com> <47E820D7.1060804@FreeBSD.org> <47E82201.3000502@errno.com>
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Sam Leffler wrote:
> But saying "it's not a problem that needs to be
> fixed" is utterly lame.
Since that's not what I intended to convey let me be less concise.
1. Changes to the current rc order need to have a very solid and well
thought out rationale which includes a detailed cost/benefit analysis
since historically it's been difficult to anticipate all of the
potential fallout from a change, and we don't want to violate POLA.
2. You are stating a problem case whose cost does not sound compelling
to me, both because I personally don't think "fixing" it would provide
much value, and because it would cause a significant change in the
current order which inevitably brings a great deal of cost (whether
those costs can eventually be ameliorated or not).
3. The burden is on the one requesting a change to demonstrate its
benefit. Saying "it's a problem and needs to be fixed" (not accompanied
by patches) could also be considered "lame." :)
4. My analysis of the potential costs and benefits might well be wrong,
which is why I'd like some other people to weigh in.
To summarize, I am not saying I don't think it's a problem. I'm saying
that we need more discussion to determine what the problem actually is,
what solutions are available, and at what cost.
Doug
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