From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 01:48:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76CC16A417 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@net24.co.nz) Received: from srv.exchange.net24.net.nz (srv.exchange.net24.net.nz [210.55.4.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4215C13C4CC for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@net24.co.nz) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([210.55.30.56]) by srv.exchange.net24.net.nz over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:45:56 +1300 Message-ID: <474A25FE.5000601@net24.co.nz> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:48:46 +1300 From: Brett Davidson Organization: Net24 Limited User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <000401c82fb0$191b53b0$f300a8c0@outkast> <000301c82fbe$6ff618b0$6701a8c0@mobility> <474A1F67.9060404@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <474A1F67.9060404@pacific.net.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2007 01:45:56.0500 (UTC) FILETIME=[165CAD40:01C82FCE] Subject: [OT] who wrote this X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:48:43 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > eBoundHost: Artur wrote: >> T, >> >> I don't know any soft way to say this. The man, Hitler, was the most >> evil person that our generation has ever witnessed. The things he did > > this is why he has to be quoted so people see from where certain ideas > originate. > > I live in a country where many things are - knowingly or unknowingly - > copied from this guy. > >> What really gets me is the fact that this is one of the examples put >> on the FreeBSD page. I'm all for freedom and libertarian ideals, but >> for > > You can promote freedom only if you are able to describe the opposite. Well said. > >> I don't want to outlaw anything, but have some good taste. Learn to >> moderate yourselves, this is what "freedom" is all based on, being >> good to others. >> > You must make people aware. If people are not aware - this was the > most common excuse of Germans after the war - they will never ever > support any actions against something. > >> I would appreciate if someone would help me find the person who can >> help to modify the text on this page. > > I hope, you will not find this person. > > Just for your information. Parts of my family were active against > Hitler until the collapse of the Third Reich. > > I think, that you are not able to understand the possible unawareness > if you have not experienced it just after 1945. A very high percentage > of Germans simply could not imagine or did not believe what was going > on around them. > > Surpressing even quotes like them here, is the first step to make > people feel as they live in a perfect world. > > Erich To give another reason against supression of quotes is that you tend to emulate the actions of the people's ideas that you wished suppressed. "The opinion of this person/group is not worthy of being spread" is but the thin edge of a fascist wedge. It effectively states that you know better than the rest of us and that you are entitled to prevent others from learning/doing something in their "best interests". I wish more people would think about that before attempting to meddle in what others are allowed to do. Brett.