Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:26:16 -0600 From: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> To: Mark Blackman <mark@exonetric.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, Mark Saad <nonesuch@longcount.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle Message-ID: <20120127032616.GB32500@lonesome.com> In-Reply-To: <A838D705-5B4B-4EA5-8BC6-11BEA4FF593B@exonetric.com> References: <CADWvR2ioJo2oy=0FTRv-BiMHGG3KB1AERjuu0FOk_yCqsGzukg@mail.gmail.com> <201201260937.47448.jhb@freebsd.org> <6D5F6ECE-5966-4849-AFDC-7F385E2CE906@exonetric.com> <201201261322.29688.jhb@freebsd.org> <ECFE9ADA-9E54-44A6-ADCA-2511462EBB67@exonetric.com> <20120126224921.GA26109@lonesome.com> <A838D705-5B4B-4EA5-8BC6-11BEA4FF593B@exonetric.com>
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On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:52:44PM +0000, Mark Blackman wrote: > I suspect poor old RE is putting too much work into BETAs and RCs for > point releases. The counter-argument is that we have a lot more leeway to make mistakes on a .0 release. We're not going to be cut any slack at all for shipping a badly regressed point release. Some minor regressions are inevitable in software, but they do indeed need to be minor. For how we're doing with regressions in general, see: http://people.freebsd.org/~linimon/studies/prs/prs_for_tag_regression.html Now, it's true that many of the recent PRs are against 9.0, and many of the ones that aren't may be stale (certainly most of the pre-2010 ones), but these are the types of things that users really notice and become unhappy about. mcl
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