From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 14 22:12:32 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE2D351446 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B5vrs2yY0z461x for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:12:21 -0700 Subject: Re: Trying to install FreeBSD 12.1 on Librem laptop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <90d59a0b-4399-ccd7-5c6e-af6463ba43ad@holgerdanske.com> <11544df2-e8e4-d02c-ce64-9ffbf7ff792e@cisek.email> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:12:16 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <11544df2-e8e4-d02c-ce64-9ffbf7ff792e@cisek.email> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B5vrs2yY0z461x X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.05 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.48)[0.476]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.72)[0.722]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.95)[0.955]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:12:32 -0000 On 2020-07-14 10:42, Patryk Cisek wrote: > > > On 2020-07-13 11:33 a.m., David Christensen wrote: >> What is the intended purpose of the laptop? > > Are you asking about how I want to use FreeBSD on this laptop? If so, I > want to learn FreeBSD. I suspect, I'll really like it, so very possibly > will also be contributing to it. I've been Debian Developer since around > 2006 and I'd like to broaden my expertise and also get to know FreeBSD > really well. >> What is the model number and/or part number of the laptop? > > Librem 13v4 >> What are the hardware specifications -- CPU, memory, storage, graphics >> chip, display, Ethernet, WiFi, etc.? > > CPU is: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7500U CPU @ 2.70GHz > 4 cores. > > Got 32 gig DDR4 memory > > Storage: > Got 2 drives. 1TB NVMe (fully dedicated to Debian Testing installation) > 0.5TB SATA SSD (dedicated fully for my FreeBSD installation) > > Graphics: > $ lspci | grep VGA > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 620 > (rev 02) > 00:1f.5 Non-VGA unclassified device: Intel Corporation Device 9d24 (rev 21) > > There's no ethernet. WiFi: > $ lspci | grep Wireless > 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network > Adapter (rev 01) >> Do you want to do multi-boot or FreeBSD only? > > Yes, but I'll have a separate SATA SSD dedicated to FreeBSD, so I'll be > deciding at BIOS stage, which system to boot (another words, from which > drive to boot). Choosing the drive to boot from is really the only > choice, SeaBIOS gives you. :) > >> Please post the partition table for the primary storage device. If the >> laptop has additional storage devices and you want to use them with >> FreeBSD (e.g. ZFS mirror, raidz), please post their partition tables. >> Please post /etc/crypttab and/or /etc/fstab if you have a PureOS or >> Linux installation and want to do multi-boot. > > Didn't get to the partitioning phase yet, so the drive is not > partitioned yet. > >> As an alternative, is there a hypervisor available for PureOS? > > As I mentioned in my 1st email, I installed FreeBSD successfully a > number of times in a VM -- that is not a problem. I just wanted to also > get a bare metal experience. If your motherboard firmware is current, there are no configurable CMOS settings, and the 12.1-RELEASE installer does not work, I suggest that you get a (used) server with ECC memory and several drive adapters/ bays/ racks, install FreeBSD, install services that you need and use, and run it 24x7. This will give you the best "real world" FreeBSD experience. After that, you will be in a much better position to do development on or for FreeBSD. David