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To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@ref.tfs.com>
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Subject: Re: Drivers for FORE systems cards under FreeBSD 
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Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 22:04:35 -0400
From: Pragnesh Sampat <pss@fore.com>
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> > > I wish they'd make up their mind!
> > > Poul and I have an ATM network with FORE aystems on it we could test
> > > against, 
> > > but I doubt we're going to fork over 10K for it..
> > > 
> > > julian
> > 
> > The AALI is on our ftp server and a public document.  It does *not* require
> > an NDA.  What Jim Carlin (the email you are referring to) meant was for a
> > program we have for Independent Software Vendors (ISV).  ISV is a package
> > which has the source code to the driver in addition to the AALI (and some
> > other stuff) and requires an NDA.  There are vendors who buy this and
> > port/build a driver for their platform etc.  Jim just may not have been
> > aware that the AALI is a publicly available document.  I hope this is
> > clear.  Let me know otherwise.
> 
> So what exactly is this offer then ?
> 
> Now >I'm< confused too.
> 

The offer is that the document (AALI) which was not available earlier
without an NDA is now available for interested people.  This is the (only)
change from previous situation.  Of course, any driver/software developed
using this in not under any licensing stuff or restriction as this is a
public document.

Unfortunately (as I realized now), I think this created some confusion as
there was someone (referring to the message Bill Arbaugh of DSL Lab at
upenn sent out) already developing a driver under ISV program for
FreeBSD/NetBSD (with whatever restrictions it has regarding the sources
etc.,).  This is different from the above paragraph and has not changed at
all.

> Oh and btw, what is the prices for your boards ?
> 

I really don't know.  I mostly have rough ideas. It is best to contact
"info@fore.com" to find out exactly.  And, these things keep changing
because of competetion, new hardware revisions etc., etc., so I am
generally in a bad position to quote these prices.  As a rough idea on the
ESA-200PC board for example, the last I knew, it used to be (approximately)
between $1600 and $1900 depending on the physical media.

-Pragnesh