From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 17 21:14:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9620B16A4CE; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 21:14:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbox.allstream.net (outbox.allstream.net [207.245.244.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E5643D45; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 21:14:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from epilogue@allstream.net) Received: from localhost (mon-pq54-132.dial.allstream.net [216.123.140.132]) by outbox.allstream.net (Allstream MTA) with SMTP id 1D48D1EC372; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:14:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:14:22 -0400 From: epilogue To: mrb@bmyster.com Message-Id: <20040717171422.1d48e5fa@localhost> In-Reply-To: <40F92085.9040500@elvandar.org> References: <1048.216.195.139.40.1090068712.squirrel@new.host.name> <40F92085.9040500@elvandar.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading form 4.2 to 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 21:14:50 -0000 On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 14:50:13 +0200 Remko Lodder wrote: > Brent Bailey wrote: > > > Hello, > > My company has been asked to help with the upgrade of several Freebsd > > systems that are pretty old. The customer is running a file server > > samba also running apache running FBSD 4.2, he wants to upgrade using > > cvsup & the make buildworld procedure to upgrade to 5.x. Im very > > familier with the make buildworld procedure however there have been > > significant changes between 4.2 & 5.x so is this something that can be > > done without many problems ? hello brent, though i don't know anyone who has gone this route, i imagine it is possible. the reason most people don't cvsup from 4.x to 5.x is because there is a fundamental change in the filesystem (details of which escape me now - check the release notes at freebsd.org). by simply cvsupping, you will _not_ be able to take advantage of the new filesystem. if your customer insists upon 5.x, it would probably be best to prepare a full back-up then: a) take the machine down, make a fresh install of 5.x, then load back data. b) build and configure a parallel 5.x machine, load it with the backed-up data, then find a new use for the 4.x series machine. hth. cheers, epi > > Aside from reading throught the /usr/src/UPDATING file are > > there things i should look out for being that the 2 versions are so > > differrent. > > > > personally i would recommend going to the lastest stable release > > 4.10-p2 > > > > I welcome this lists thoughts & opions on this matter > > > > thank in advance for any help :-) > > Hey Brent, > > FreeBSD 5.x has not yet been described as production release ready. > So your customer is best advised to use the 4.x branch, and indeed at > the moment that is 4.10 (and the patches afterwards ofcourse). > > However i am running FreeBSD 5.x as production server in 2 colocated > boxes without any problems. So it does not mean that it's crashing all > the time, but there might be bugs that can cause downtime for your > customer, and he should be willing to risk that problem if you want to > upgrade to 5.x. If he prefers stablitity, and little downtime you do > best to upgrade to the latest 4 release with patches. > > Since it's a very long while back that i runned 4.x (4.3 ...) i can't > remember anymore what the huge differences are, perhaps someone else can > describe that to you. > > Cheers! > > -- > Kind regards, > > Remko Lodder |remko@elvandar.org > Reporter DSINet |remko@dsinet.org > Projectleader Mostly-Harmless |remko@mostly-harmless.nl > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >