From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jun 17 08:33:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09524 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:33:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09500 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:33:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5688) with SMTP id RAA01875; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:33:21 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:27:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Garance A Drosihn cc: FreeBSD hackers mailing list Subject: Re: 2.2.6 CD-ROM : Package dependencies up the creek ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I was thinking more towards a short list of things that a newbie > (or almost anyone) would need within a few hours of starting a > fresh install. The "just to get going" packages, not the "this > is what we run on our production machines" packages. Many of > the things you listed do make sense for a "just to get going" > list, but certainly things like apache are not needed early in > the game. And I'd argue that for something like apache you > might want to download and build the latest version anyway (I > know I would), so there's no point in installing the package > version just to replace it a few hours later. That is true, but the idea of profiles and a more copious choice of what you might want to install is not a bad idea either I think. But for the initial installation before a package manager shows up, maybe you are right. That should be kept clean and nice and simple. But if bash is in the list, aren't people going to argue that jbsh (Joe Bloe's shell) should be in that list as well? Bash is pretty standard but anyway.... > > And oh, by the way, guys, you're wonderfull. I spend about > > 14 hours (at work and home) a day behind a computer running > > FreeBSD and love every second of it. > > Also, your message sounds like you were writing it to the > entire mailing list, but you only sent it to me... Hm, well, maybe I should use one of those MS tools that send it to the entire world by default in Word format with a picture of me included. Nah... Thanks. Corrected. STA-ISIS, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, Italy building: 27A tel.: +39 332 78 9549 fax.: +39 332 78 9185 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message