From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 22 09:44:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E93BA1ABD for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 422931B89 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 971938100 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/971938100; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Upgrading 10.3 -> 11 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <1a31ac70-0036-6ed8-6549-8cb05cbea5b3@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 10:43:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8QMV8td4dDFRWivLq3X929sT86pvp0qM3" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:44:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --8QMV8td4dDFRWivLq3X929sT86pvp0qM3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="qv7CKLbQR6tlLS1LhIM8q090MOw4bk7th" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1a31ac70-0036-6ed8-6549-8cb05cbea5b3@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Upgrading 10.3 -> 11 References: In-Reply-To: --qv7CKLbQR6tlLS1LhIM8q090MOw4bk7th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/22/16 10:10, krad wrote: > Hi, as 11 is getting closeish to release is there anything special we n= eed > to do in order to upgrade from 10 -> 11. I usually use the makeworld > method, but I heard that in 11 the base os would be packaged in a diffe= rent > way using pkgng. I cant find any hard information on this though, so > currently is just looks like a normal makeworld type upgrade will work = with > all the normal caveats. Am I correct in my thinking? Assuming you're talking about running 11-STABLE, then yes, a normal makeworld cycle will get you upgraded to 11.0 -- plus all the extra bits needed for a major version upgrade, like reinstalling all your ports so they link against the new shlibs in the updated system. If you want to run 11.0-RELEASE, once it comes out, you can use freebsd-update(8) to upgrade to it. Packaged base is coming, but it's not going to be in place for 11.0-RELEASE. Current plans are it will go live with 11.1-RELEASE, and there will be detailed instructions on how to manage the 11.0-RELEASE (freebsd-update) to 11.1-RELEASE (PkgBase) transition at that time. If you'ld like to help testing and developing base packages, subscribe to the freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org mailing list and start by following the instructions at https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase At the moment though, all the PkgBase stuff is entirely voluntary -- you can choose to opt in if you want. There's no expectation that 11.0 systems will have base system packages registered, and you can manage an 11.0 system exactly as you have previously been managing earlier system versions. 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