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Date:      Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:16:17 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Sergey Vinogradov <boogie@lazybytes.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ifconfig output: ipv4 netmask format
Message-ID:  <8B793E28-0426-46CC-AB10-E0257AF6707D@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <4D9F5B31.9000509@lazybytes.org>
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On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Sergey Vinogradov wrote:

> 08.04.2011 19:55, Mike Bristow =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:
>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 07:40:56PM +0400, Sergey Vinogradov wrote:
>>> On 08.04.2011 19:23, Warner Losh wrote:
>>>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:08 AM, Sergey Vinogradov wrote:
>>>> If we really wanted to make it human readable, we'd output =
10.2.3.4/24
>>>=20
>>> So, maybe, while following the POLA, we should add an option, as =
Daniel
>>> mentioned above? To output the CIDR?
>>=20
>> Non-contigous netmasks are legal in IPv4.  What do you do if someone =
adds
>> the CIDR flag but the netmask cannot be represented in CIDR notation?
>=20
> And boom goes the dynamite. Reverting to my first proposal about =
changing only netmask notation.

Non-contiguous netmasks are *not* legal anymore in IPv4.  They have gone =
the way of the dodo.  While some stacks still support it, a growing =
number of an interesting number of bugs with them that actual =
deployments with non-contiguous submasks becomes more hassle than it is =
worth.

Warner




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