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(94-193-126-66.zone7.bethere.co.uk [94.193.126.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t2sm5750088gve.27.2009.11.15.10.52.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:52:15 -0800 (PST) From: Abhoriel <abhoriel@googlemail.com> To: chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200911151344.59732.GedankeZauberer@comcast.net> References: <867htr3hre.wl%bh@izb.knu.ac.kr> <200911151834.LAA13872@lariat.net> <200911151344.59732.GedankeZauberer@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:51:58 +0000 Message-Id: <1258311118.5184.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Is there anybody to use Linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: abhoriel@googlemail.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community <freebsd-chat.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat>, <mailto:freebsd-chat-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-chat@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-chat-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat>, <mailto:freebsd-chat-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:52:18 -0000 On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 13:44 -0500, Allen wrote: > On Sunday 15 November 2009 01:34:42 pm Brett Glass wrote: > > At 08:55 AM 11/15/2009, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > > >Since FreeBSD's flash is not good, i'm considering to use linux box for > > >desktop, instead of FreeBSD. Please advice me about using Linux distro > > >like as Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo, Fedora! > > > > Unfortunately, the best desktop Flash you are going to get is going > > to be for Windows. Not that I like Windows much, mind you, but I > > find that it makes a good browser platform and GUI terminal when > > used in conjunction with FreeBSD servers. > > I have booted up Windows I think twice in the last 4 months, maybe less. I use > Youtube to look at stuff, and I make Music with a Myspace Music account, and > need to upload it to Myspace, and then listen to it in their Flash player. > > I run Debian Linux 5.01 on this machine, and the other I use would be > Slackware 13.0 for uploads. I make the Music on this machine with Debian and > LMMS, and also on FreeBSD. I've yet to have a problem and was kind of > wondering why you said Windows was the way to go for Flash and browsing. I > personally only use Windows as a Wintendo (Windows for a few games that don't > work right in BSD or Linux, and everything else I do is done in Linux / BSD / > Unix) and I don't dare surf the web or check email on a Windows machine. It's > too risky! > > > As for WINE: I gave it up when it went GPL. I have no need for > > anything with a viral license. I am waiting for the day when I can > > build FreeBSD with a GPL-free toolchain and run without any GPLed > > code anywhere on the box. (This day may be coming soon, by the way. > > I hear through the grapevine that clang can build the FreeBSD > > userland and may not be far from being able to build the -CURRENT kernel.) > > Aren't you sort of describing SunOS and some version of Solaris there? > > I find it hard to believe there are actually people in this world who won't > use software because of the license it has, when they recommend someone using > Windows and Firefox... Do you see the humor in that? > > > --Brett Glass > > Allen. Agreed. I have no problems with flash with my amd64/gentoo box, it works at least as well as it does on windows. Jonathan