From nobody Thu Sep 23 20:20:27 2021 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64D117D4211; Thu, 23 Sep 2021 20:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) Received: from uucp.dinoex.org (uucp.dinoex.org [IPv6:2a0b:f840::12]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "uucp.dinoex.sub.de", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HFmrG5Z9Lz4WSn; Thu, 23 Sep 2021 20:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) Received: from uucp.dinoex.sub.de (uucp.dinoex.org [185.220.148.12]) by uucp.dinoex.org (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPS id 18NKP0Kx017067 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Sep 2021 22:25:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.dinoex.sub.de: Host uucp.dinoex.org [185.220.148.12] claimed to be uucp.dinoex.sub.de Received: from bamd12.dinoex.sub.de (dinoex@localhost) by uucp.dinoex.sub.de (8.17.1/8.17.1/Submit) with BSMTP id 18NKP0G0017059; Thu, 23 Sep 2021 22:25:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) To: current@freebsd.org, arch@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: From: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Organization: privat Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] making /bin/sh the default shell for root Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 22:20:27 +0200 X-Mailer: Dinoex 1.79 References: <20210922083645.4vnoajyvwq6wfhdf@aniel.nours.eu> X-Gateway: ZCONNECT bamd12.dinoex.sub.de [UNIX/Connect 0.94] X-Accept-Language: de,en X-No-Archive: yes X-ZC-VIA: 20210923000000S+2@dinoex.sub.org X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: uucp.dinoex.sub.de; Sender-ip: 185.220.148.12; Sender-helo: uucp.dinoex.sub.de;) X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (uucp.dinoex.org [185.220.148.12]); Thu, 23 Sep 2021 22:25:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HFmrG5Z9Lz4WSn X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=dinoex.sub.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org designates 2a0b:f840::12 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dinoex.sub.org,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:205376, ipnet:2a0b:f840::/32, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Baptiste Daroussin schrieb:, > For years now, csh is the default root shell for FreeBSD > [...] > This makes it a usable shell by default, which is why I would like to propose to > make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE (not MFCed) > > If no strong arguments has been raised until October 15th, I will make this > proposal happen. We have already "toor" for sh. I disgree on the "user friendly" part of sh. History search in sh and bash can't hold a candle angainst csh. Migration of aliase will be painful as ">&" and "|&" is not supoported. I vote strongly against it. kind regards Dirk - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany - [dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org],[dirk.meyer@guug.de],[dinoex@FreeBSD.org]