From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 16:17:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1E816A4CE for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 16:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from fep3.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0992C43D2F for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 16:17:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pnmurphy@cogeco.ca) Received: from jupiter.upton.net (d141-18-230.home.cgocable.net [24.141.18.230]) by fep3.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2150628C8 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 19:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from earth.upton.net (earth.upton.net [192.168.0.3]) by jupiter.upton.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with SMTP id i070GxYE045934 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 19:17:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul@earth.upton.net) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 19:16:54 -0500 From: Paul Murphy To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040106191654.55a20157@earth.upton.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) User-Agent: X-Face: -Q/~XHbe$z/a List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:17:03 -0000 --Signature=_Tue__6_Jan_2004_19_16_54_-0500_gly2Zqr3KLQw.9o8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:17:38 -0600 (CST) Mark Linimon wrote: > > Alas, the problem is that the FreeBSD developers do not attach > > appropriate value to advocacy. Contributions in the form of advocacy > > are virtually unvalued relative to contributions in the form of > > code. > > IMHO what you're seeing is not this, but instead, frustration from > the developers in feeling that the advocacy discussions less often > bear concrete results than code contributions. > > If you don't think the advocacy efforts are good enough, please > come up with something concrete, propose it on -advocacy, and > see if you can get volunteers to sign on to help. > > mcl > "Submit a patch" ;) -- Cogeco ergo sum --Signature=_Tue__6_Jan_2004_19_16_54_-0500_gly2Zqr3KLQw.9o8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/+0/7Tv5Mxsi/WPMRAvfXAJ9sGz8Ncw3U1dPxrzxq0MOKQqgmIACgqx7U oKKGpT1ToV6ez1982iTIc6E= =CAF7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__6_Jan_2004_19_16_54_-0500_gly2Zqr3KLQw.9o8--