From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 15 21:34:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B53D84B; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 21:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (glebius.int.ru [81.19.69.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919EB1C55; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 21:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r3FLYVNp002671; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:34:31 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r3FLYVS7002670; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:34:31 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.glebius.int.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:34:31 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Scott Long Subject: Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer Message-ID: <20130415213431.GB76816@FreeBSD.org> References: <201304151927.r3FJRtq9002799@slippy.cwsent.com> <38F315FF-07D3-451C-9811-D4CF89E9EB8E@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <38F315FF-07D3-451C-9811-D4CF89E9EB8E@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Warren Block , "current@freebsd.org" , Chris Rees , darrenr@freebsd.org, Rui Paulo , "net@freebsd.org" , "cpet@sdf.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 21:34:35 -0000 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 01:32:48PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: S> > Given that IPF already lives in src/contrib and src/sys/contrib, would the S> > change in License from Darren Reed's own not so BSD friendly IPF license to S> > GPLv2 be of concern. I recall there was a lot of concern over IPF's license S> > change at the time. (FreeBSD moved it to contrib while OpenBSD removed it S> > completely and wrote PF -- I'm not sure what NetBSD did). S> S> I would assume that the license change would be OK, especially since the other S> option is to remove it (or let it continue to rot and be an eyesore) but I'll defer to those like S> Gleb and Rui with a more vested interest in it. I'm not a licensing guru, so I can't tell whether GPL ipfilter can live in src/ and if it can, where should it be. So I expect someone else to comment on licensing. My personal, biased towards BSD, wish, is to import only the last BSD-licensed version, move it out of contrib to netpfil, remove zillions of compatibility (towards other OSes) code and just maintain it. Maintaining means fixing bugs and catching up on kernel changes. We can ask Darren whether we can switch the license to pure BSD. Since he himself switched the entire license to GPL, the insisting on the following clause seems strange, and expect he won't insist on it. > The licence and distribution terms for any publically available version or > derivative of this code cannot be changed. i.e. this code cannot simply be > copied, in part or in whole, and put under another distribution licence > [including the GNU Public Licence.] -- Totus tuus, Glebius.