From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 06:30:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186FA16A4CE for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 06:30:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DBB43D31 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 06:30:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j1B6Uwj24106 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:30:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:30:57 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <20050210155900.GD89175@keyslapper.net> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo suchasNetBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 06:30:56 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Louis LeBlanc > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:59 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo > suchasNetBSD!!! > > > Those technical criteria were NOT drawn out in community fashion. > They forgot one very important thing: > The logo must be historically significant. > > That bit about not offending anyone is bullshit plain and simple. I > for one think this whole PC movement is bull. Don't get me wrong, I'm > all for peoples right to live their lives, but the PC movement should > have died exactly two days after it started. > Louis, There is a difference between deliberately making people feel bad and offending people. The PC movement originally started with the noble idea that people should not try to deliberately make other people unhappy. This idea works very well with young children, and I must admit that I agree with it. The problem is that when certain individuals get older, they start to believe that when someone does something that they don't approve of, that has no effect on their lives in any way, shape or form, that somehow it hurts them. For example Ashcroft was certain that when 2 gays somewhere got married, that he suffered personal injury. It is these people who have perverted the PC doctorine into something along the lines of "well you 2 fags are getting married only to get me so upset that I cannot ever get an erection again, so I'm justified in taking a club to you and beating your brains in" Beastie became the FreeBSD Project's logo for many reasons, liking it was only one of them. However never at any time did this happen just to spite fundies. Nor does use of this logo affect fundies on a personal level, they aren't required to look at it if they run FreeBSD, nor are they required to talk about it. Therefore it is a perversion of the politically correct doctorine for fundies to claim that use of Beastie isn't politically correct. It is just like the breastfeeding in public debate. It is a sad state of affairs in this country today when states have had to pass laws (like NY did) that specifically permit a woman to flop out her tit to feed a hungry child, because the fundies think that seeing a tit somehow harms them. Ted