From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 21:00:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BA1106564A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71918FC1C for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so3819047vws.13 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 13:00:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YtKvDQWsfhf5B7klj5Rvm7kJInIoPU5r4oLvo6F2U1c=; b=jXiIsrhZOWIhbIICwyp4k1fVzYfiUszuWOm6Nm+E5aaBLrd5JEyb+EVJlRaFEv00CR 61D1lIf7AN6y4HKNu8Sl5viPM2Z6JG9RCHhL06ooJSdbPstkZRGswM9ue9r5ojoGqkbJ SavtYmmU672kIh6dAcRpXJrzK/r+azjYHmDsI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=Ze1HS3S5vbNuJ53Dt/wWXiQooZuHyTVksvzrWSqxHJL/aCRroY48NiebfjgVpTLInw 07nGg4En2TfMH4cZk+uPIr4XmMXpyQBOoX6yvt5NIUl8tNqSbiMz74HtGogYAinMd9dM vX7HfEtzoJh/fKugWR6NYQ5srZfVMJq+YaxlE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.69.140 with SMTP id e12mr1910598vdu.187.1299445242347; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 13:00:42 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.167.3 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:00:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D73F1D2.4000208@gthcfoundation.org> References: <4D73BB23.8020806@gthcfoundation.org> <201103061758.47368.hselasky@c2i.net> <4D73C223.8040009@gthcfoundation.org> <201103061836.39151.hselasky@c2i.net> <4D73F1D2.4000208@gthcfoundation.org> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 05:00:42 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6Ngpd0GhDOQ0JbcA0zntNxkhgag Message-ID: From: Adrian Chadd To: erob@gthcfoundation.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Hans Petter Selasky Subject: Re: can somebody explains OFDM in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 21:00:44 -0000 FreeBSD doesn't implement OFDM in the kernel. The various chipsets implement OFDM, not FreeBSD. There's no "software" OFDM. The 802.11 chipsets out there take care of it, not FreeBSD. Adrian On 7 March 2011 04:42, Etienne Robillard wrote: > On 06/03/11 12:36 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > > On Sunday 06 March 2011 18:19:31 Etienne Robillard wrote: > > > >> On 06/03/11 11:58 AM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > >> > > > >> yes, the difference with 'software OFDM' and hardware OFDM - as in > >> run(4) - is the latter > >> exploits 'objects' and 'peoples' as subcarriers units with > >> "bi-directional data" when > >> software OFDM could be used to securely convert the raw ELF/VLF energy > >> input to > >> a external server (the Power Server).. > >> > >> could then this not require a security advisory for hardware OFDM > devices > >> circulating in the wild to boost 802.11 'speeds' and 'ranges' ? > >> > > Hi Etienne, > > > > I think you are reading too much into too little and that further > discussion > > into the details you suggest is not appropriate for this list. I believe > that > > developers on the -current list are serious people, wanting to remove > problems > > in this world rather than create them. Exploits are possible when the > > developers are not given enough time to research good solutions. Maybe > you > > want to support FreeBSD developers by donating some money via the FreeBSD > > foundation, so that we can do a better job, removing your fears of > software > > exploits in interaction with humans :-) > > > > --HPS > > > > BTW: Our slogan is "The power to serve" and not "the power server" :-) > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > X-UID: 11883 > > Status: > > X-Keywords: > > Content-Length: 0 > > > > > > I've put a wiki page for anyone interested in the topic of building a > OFDM-based kernel here: > > https://gthc.org/wiki/FreeBSD/OFDM_Kernel > > and I still think hardware OFDM is inherently insecure as-is in FreeBSD > even if not everyone > seems to agree or willing to debate the idea with strong arguments to > prove the contrary. > > > > -- > Etienne Robillard > > Company: Green Tea Hackers Club > Occupation: Software Developer (and CEO) > E-mail: erob@gthcfoundation.org > Work phone: 450-936-2123 > Website (Company): https://gthc.org/ > Website (Blog): https://gthc.org/blog/ > PGP public key fingerprint: F2A9 32EA 8E7C 460F 1728 A1A7 649C 7F17 > A086 DDEC > > During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary > act. -- George Orwell > > If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few > who are rich. -- John F. 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