From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Feb 15 10:32:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11235 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:32:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat1061.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.186.45] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11229 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:32:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA41100; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:32:52 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:32:51 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Alan Weber cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Some un-biased numbers on OS distributions... In-Reply-To: <19990215091546.A25430@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Alan Weber wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 03:09:49AM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > --> > --> Over the past couple of days, I've been trying to come up with some > --> reasonably unbiased numbers concerning distribution of operating systems > --> on the Internet...the numbers are depressing so far: > --> > --> Operating System Summary > --> OS # of Hosts % of Hosts > --> Windows 37929 74.94 > --> Linux 4750 9.39 > --> Macintosh 2044 4.04 > --> SunOS 1691 3.34 > --> FreeBSD 336 0.66 > --> > --> Granted, the sample size is still only ~50,000 hosts, but the %ages stay > --> pretty consistant as most hosts come on line...are we *really* that far > --> behind? > --> > --> Full results can be seen at http://www.hub.org/OS_Survey, and just by > --> hitting that page, you add to the results... > > > I think one of the weaknesses of using vistors to collect IPs is you will get > a sampling of the desktop population. The server population will be totally > invisible. All the web servers at yahoo will not visit your site. I am also > am curious what operating systems MSIE, NAV are. I thing that the heavy duty > server oses are underrepresented. I would expect more HPUX, AIX, SUN, and > FreeBSD in a server population. Could you test HTTPD/FTP/Telnet ports to > try and identify servers vs desktops. I am glad that FreeBSD is even visible > in the desktop domain. Good point...I was originally using nmap to probe a list of IPs, but there are just too many ppl out there that automatically associate probing with crackers, so I switched to this method... ...I've just added an INPUT field to the URL that will allow you to add an IP to be probed, for those with servers that they want to include...its at least an attempt to provide a means of getting the servers in there with the desktops... As for MSIE and NAV...errors in my parsing routines that I have to work out. They will be removed, msot likely tonight, once the main bootstrapping is done... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message