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Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/etc.mips ttys 
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In message <200805050949.27063.jhb@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin writes:

>> And for anyone looking at this, there is also a task to eliminate the
>> pty devices in this file, the reason why they are there has to do with
>> the introduction of the really weird notion of "remote logins" back in
>> the early 1980'ies, we really could do better.
>
>Err, I thought it was because utmp still uses the line index in /etc/ttys so 
>ptys have to be listed in /etc/ttys to get an index.

That's _exactly_ what I'm talking about :-)

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