From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 20 14:02:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E46106566B for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5952F8FC12 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 32389 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2009 14:02:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=lZeqGH6z6FOphCsIqgwQX7zFpxT90uwcqlXlwldcz5oOEm4qSDvO7gQZl7LJEnqMlDDaXrggeRMJbQwd1gOV6GXeKtV1ydZL5eKK+uPEvgySz80pNF36MUsYAjpJIWuYT0YuBRaxKR5Q5+4oL86Ggh4vNlM/8IcyM+tf/2XNDF8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2009 14:02:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ZnnP_RkVM1l_R6r3dxL6hhkpGf4anUtKYJsu_01IVxYhF8ar5mbsk13u1920bIIuMfHn.JQIp3slks6qg4LkIDmnWCVeYNhsME7.q_q.qaC9JDrV82MTiPoAUCsb.tsJ4h5gpQjMuka5LgsRW4uEoJreFQL9M6ZLeTaEHlZPw5Vwa2LX7COGPU8P96QATHfuhVt4rAJd0bxf0e61n.LzJEFgI.rue9ahSaaOkaepkQrEEF7dqQJd6s_S9lNe1YNyOdqsYY7XaCinvOtDvPq4kw2zMO1harf56QA4UlbtKd7cKPXscSok X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:02:03 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090420100203.4032c707@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <49EC7167.4040402@otenet.gr> References: <89ce7f740904182018s5ee0934ew54021bd2e44d207e@mail.gmail.com> <49EACF5B.9090107@otenet.gr> <49EB3CFD.6010408@otenet.gr> <89ce7f740904191438j222d34ddtaf1ade298a09abd1@mail.gmail.com> <49EBBEED.7080903@gmail.com> <20090420035810.705647ab.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090420080030.628f7cf3@scorpio> <49EC7167.4040402@otenet.gr> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/C74H6RDkZ5p0eYxtzKwto=E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: Problems with Xorg after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:02:16 -0000 --Sig_/C74H6RDkZ5p0eYxtzKwto=E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:58:15 +0300 Manolis Kiagias wrote: >Jerry wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:58:10 +0200 >> Polytropon wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >> =20 >>>> While CTRL+ALT+Backspace does not kill the X server, I can press=20 >>>> CTRL+ALT+F1 or ALT+F1 to return to the text mode console. I then >>>> kill the X server via CTRL+C. =20 >>>> =20 >>> There's a new setting that needs to be put into xorg.conf: >>> >>> Section "ServerFlags" >>> Option "DontZap" "false" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Then you should be able to Ctrl+Alt+BkSpace to kill X. >>> =20 >> >> Maybe I am reading this incorrectly; however, in my /etc/xorg.conf >> file, I have this notation. >> >> # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence >> # This allows clients to receive this key event. >> >> # Option "DontZap" >> >> It would seem the language is confusing. As I would understand it, >> uncommenting the line disables the sequence. Therefore, it would seem >> to indicate that leaving it commented out activates the sequence. >> Maybe the language should be cleaned up. >> >> =20 >Heh, it can be quite confusing because it enables the system to *not* >do something, which is the reverse of what we usually think options do. >Using Option "DontZap" simply enables "DontZap" which prevents=20 >CTRL+ALT+BSKP from being used. Hence disabling DontZap allows X-Server=20 >to be... Zapped or killed by the key combination ;) I agree. I hate programmers who think they have to 'confuse' the end user. Setting something off to enable it, and vice versa is neither logical or intuitive. Maybe changing the option to: OPTION "EnableKill" "On" and then explaining the with it enabled the ++ key combination is enabled would make more sense. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Good day to deal with people in high places; particularly lonely stewardesses. --Sig_/C74H6RDkZ5p0eYxtzKwto=E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknsgGQACgkQBvaKIJWWCO0VwgCdGBBgQrzC8OudggvIe9gaIwBm 5vUAn1rgEc5ZJVQ49xAsPTcHiU2+R1GT =wnWB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/C74H6RDkZ5p0eYxtzKwto=E--