From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 19 02:29:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2579E83; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x229.google.com (mail-ob0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EF8FA49; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id vb8so10021271obc.0; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:29:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=08Yffmpxp72qSsCG/YOciVWi0m92d381M6QpI1tgHoc=; b=BERmBSgDoPgIt/Qz7B9rI9G4lXp120hoI7WXcbYt30kRwBvotJJFZtRYLenGq9o2hz QIj1C0lOKDd3AqmnT8CklEfTHloHk0GDsduudVZFV8FqzmX3kbYD25sUX6NP89+58RD0 KpIUm4W1+2LBMWG72BZesDzT2Uu79dNFZD9RsH6MQmISK8vLGGLybUafsd2xij0uSIId cfAEXdjdNPzPHL7R0gFuDfLct2vrJlh+eLrfknWwt9zqU/CGw/hFxMzDdadMMNGJ+gDe ot8FGF/lTJqFORCCt6YgwGvBcPDl9xX/PBnDc9wWxN4cdypLn4Oh19LRWrgd3s7g3lso ICig== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.46.168 with SMTP id w8mr3370164obm.56.1418956182866; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.75.74 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.75.74 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:29:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:29:42 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] From: Bill Sorenson To: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:29:43 -0000 I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an XServe G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install. Problem appears specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although I've been wrong before. I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the release process so no idea if it makes sense. -Bill S. On Dec 18, 2014 8:22 PM, "Mark Millard" wrote: > I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report sounds > like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE .iso's burned to > CDs for PowerMac G5's. > > As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I > bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.html > .) > > I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no XServe > access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My tries do not go all > the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, however. As I remember I > started trying in 2014-Apr or so. Eventually I stopped checking each new > 10.0-STABLE but did check some as time went on. > > > From: Nathan Whitehorn > Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD boot > problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] > Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT > To: Mark Millard , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org > > Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a 10.0-STABLE > image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. What really > perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders are identical, since > loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super weird. I'll try to get it > fixed. Thanks for the problem report and reminder! > -Nathan > > On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: > > To make clear about the "/" in the line: > > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans then > gradually spin up. > > This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It always > stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that is from the > repeating sequence or is the leading / from /boot/kernel/kernel. At this > point I'm limited to reporting just the visual result, not the internal > stage it is tied to. > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the G5's > (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes are easier to > understand): > > For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying > > loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans then > gradually spin up. > > In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the line > that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel > > The original messages were: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > and > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html > > Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even though > /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. > > > > As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything yet. And, > unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks so I will not be > doing new experiments for several weeks. I can try once I get back. > > All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE worked. > Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: Late April is > about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. > > Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. > PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have other > kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) > > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to emulation > (assuming it is the same problem in both places). > > I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same way/place > whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a > CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried > emulation. > > Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and .txz > files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not > buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. > > My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were reported > in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) > > FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) boot hangs > very early in the process > > Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to > CD? A multi-processor one? > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > > > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >