From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 2 17:16:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D34DABEE9 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2017 17:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailman.tundraware.com", Issuer "mailman.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28D2B6D8CC for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2017 17:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v72H7OxA096466 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2017 12:07:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Subject: Re: Ban on spam-sender domains from posting to freebsd-questions To: FreeBSD References: <20170802144911.1457.qmail@ary.lan> From: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 12:07:19 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Wed, 02 Aug 2017 12:07:25 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: v72H7OxA096466 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.01, required 1, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.01) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2017 17:16:54 -0000 On 08/02/2017 11:32 AM, markham breitbach wrote: > 2. Having a subscriber only policy doesn't necessarily prevent spam. I've run lists for years and while it doesn't "prevent" it, it vastly reduces it, almost to the point of nonexistence. > 3. I really don't see why the list can't have a subscribe-only policy. While I sympathize with this (and all my lists run that way), the problem is that subscriber-only lists tend to really increase the admin burden for the list manager. People are shockingly lazy and will just ask the admins to add/delete/change their subscriptions. They forget passwords, they can't remember the change process, the can't find the web interface, ... ad infinitum ad nauseum... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.