From owner-freebsd-perl@freebsd.org Wed May 18 00:58:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-perl@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABD8B3DB6B for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 00:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684411F80 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 00:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 67A1FB3DB6A; Wed, 18 May 2016 00:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: perl@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674E0B3DB69 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 00:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (mail.sorbs.net [67.231.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598FB1F7F for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 00:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0O7C00F7ILOOEC00@hades.sorbs.net> for perl@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 May 2016 18:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: p5-Net-3.08,1 fails to configure.... To: Henk van Oers Cc: perl@freebsd.org References: <57339791.4060406@sorbs.net> <57347C2F.4040200@sorbs.net> <544C44B2A664D9A5EF0BFC7E@ogg.in.absolight.net> From: Michelle Sullivan Message-id: <573BBE0E.9030501@sorbs.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 02:57:50 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40 In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: maintainer of a number of perl-related ports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 00:58:00 -0000 Henk van Oers wrote: > > On Tue, 17 May 2016, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > > [...] > >> The port doesn't support Perl 5.8. The upstream software may support >> 5.8, >> we, The FreeBSD Project, do not. We only support the supported >> releases of >> Perl. > > ACK. OK. > Sorry Michelle ... > Don't worry about it Henk, I already knew the answer.. I've just been fishing for statement of this type of policy for a while. It basically goes: You will run what we tell you, or it'll break and you won't get support. If you don't use what we tell you we'll break it for you when you try and security patch. We're doing it to make things better for you, really, trust us.. no really... Which is basically true.... FreeBSD has so badly f**ked over a load of us that we're looking at alternatives, personally that has been a look at fixing all the breakage, which "the current ports tree cannot work with pkg_* tools" statement I well and truly proved wrong... I have a ports tree that is almost working perfectly .. just little crap like in my tree I have 5.16 still there and that means you need to install other modules as deps... I've got staff and money available now to dump freebsd from all the servers I have and turn everything over to ops and centos... which means I can stop sys-admining and get on with developing... though I am also discussing with some ex-FreeBSD people about running up our own version of FreeBSD that actually works, is to weighed down by every man and his dog code and doesn't screw over the people using it... However, I just got diagnosed with Cancer, and a Cancer that means I'm getting op'd on at the end of the week then we find out how long I have and if I have many years or just months... so the whole thing might be mute and me not giving a s**t. But that said, if you're interested, I'll add you the list of people I need to mail if I step up with the others and create our first version. All the best, Michelle -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/