From eugen@grosbein.net Fri Apr 29 18:43:22 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E49F19978D5 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2022 18:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:c2c:26d8::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KqhFx3vWZz4tK4; Fri, 29 Apr 2022 18:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (root@eg.sd.rdtc.ru [62.231.161.221] (may be forged)) by hz.grosbein.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 23TIhTE9010314 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 29 Apr 2022 18:43:30 GMT (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: emaste@freebsd.org Received: from [10.58.0.11] (dadvw [10.58.0.11] (may be forged)) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 23TIhSdc018680 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 30 Apr 2022 01:43:28 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: breaking modules To: Ed Maste , "Julian H. Stacey" References: <202204281527.23SFRbKU090763@fire.js.berklix.net> Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <5a9a751e-4042-57cb-5f34-e300e0050ad1@grosbein.net> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2022 01:43:22 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,SHORTCIRCUIT autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -0.0 SHORTCIRCUIT No description available. * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on hz.grosbein.net X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KqhFx3vWZz4tK4 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eugen@grosbein.net does not designate 2a01:4f8:c2c:26d8::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eugen@grosbein.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.59 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[eugen]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.32)[-0.317]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grosbein.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.997]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/32, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N 29.04.2022 21:49, Ed Maste wrote: > On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at 11:28, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> >> but that's crude. It's nice to be able to build most modules ready >> in case wanted later, so how about a DUDS env. mechanism like ports/ ? > > I'd rather not add additional complexity to our build infrastructure > to address a situation that shouldn't exist. Modules should build & > function on an ongoing basis (and, I believe they generally do). CI > doesn't report any issues on either stable branch or main at present. Unfortunately, CI does not catch stand-alone module build failures, out of kernel build directory. For example: if_em https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=c0460cf2e42d2819c1f191a1d6e1b3dc0c7ea010 if_epair https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=7a382e744b0b0ba9b51dc34bfa0cd1515f744f25 linuxkpi https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=f5a2e7b0e8483bf51519046fd149a6a31acef6b1