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Date:      Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:27:11 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        patl@phoenix.volant.org
Cc:        hetzels@westbend.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Digitally Signed Messages
Message-ID:  <199804170127.SAA00859@usr06.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <ML-3.3.892772193.1183.patl@asimov> from "patl@phoenix.volant.org" at Apr 16, 98 05:16:33 pm

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> Half right.  HTML doesn't add any useful information, and obscures
> the body of the message when view in non-HTML-aware MUAs.  But
> Digital Signatures DO add useful information, namely a verification
> that the message is not a forgery and has not been tampered with.
> (Within whatever trust level you assign to that particular key.)
> This is just as useful in a mailing list as it is in a private
> discussion.  Possibly more so, since the exposure to potential
> forgers is greater.

Digital signatures require an out-of-band courier or a Diffie-Helman
key exchange or a central ceritificate authority that verifies the
identity of the sender by chking their physical ID before signing
the certificate.

The problem with the certificates generally used in mailing
lists is that they are not sufficiently verifiable that they
can be used as identification, which is how their senders are
pretending they can be used.

Basically, they are subject to man-in-the-middle attacks.

This means that they are generally worthless clutter.


The VeriSign "personal certificates" are not usable because the
certificate authority, Verisign, will not vouch for the identity
of the user.

An interesting side point:

The X.509 ceritificate that you sent is invalid for signing
email.  It has a number of fields that are not compliant with
X.509, and the "mail" bit is zero.

And no, I refuse to become a certificate authority.  8-).


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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