From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri May 18 20:03:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88BDED9DBB for ; Fri, 18 May 2018 20:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x233.google.com (mail-it0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31AD48729F for ; Fri, 18 May 2018 20:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x233.google.com with SMTP id 144-v6so14521313iti.5 for ; Fri, 18 May 2018 13:03:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=LccFgBqC6+J6WvRUo2jgdI/Gvs+XjlxmlEAxdyoGCzY=; b=ShVnDXpW1VKznnqlj97YtZz+RAtFrxv8f3KCrcafVRuQw8MJBE313ulx7xfhTHFJtN Kg49FKSjW8Tke9UUo9QJK43TtcGAxpQtpNbvN5Xk59kmuGPKOFZw8C46kmm8TNXksmms jpBYY58i5hkBUKuACXAboiuIe+qMQzbesGJACYsRRsW+h/pO1i6am4ZVf4xuuK98NxlZ EBnszYhcKMyKtyneCEVB/zjhvj7CV1tQ73PlLSh6ffo8s7XyO3XqPS38237sPYaAPGty XMMVVL46imTAW7SrJRFhaBgA7OpGfWKLxcGbe3NfySD20wpXTJMsXrqLnUYkQi4Jwyvb yhcg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LccFgBqC6+J6WvRUo2jgdI/Gvs+XjlxmlEAxdyoGCzY=; b=HXd8fgpXdm9KapEULNfeQwEspdolFD3CcgUjjCV5QQEYRtRoPfQdzum8DGwimE4n8U +slKruyzgq4dfmWh2tV9YhEZgLA39F90bNgxG10jQuwAfvdRJH8yTG3O+8z+5VCEopZd yJf3hoBA7WbU4n966aEIHnqXxdiYBaxEd1vdmE/MQYgbcMwbPfL6pUGu4vGp3jEmYxAU p96lBxAFEj1/0rKAMKxxbV79P8BU4tCGJYb19V7Twed4JJFNk1JQnC/3r1uFT2t8CSFr a7JbDy/pMO19klHjlqevDrofBFTXfz+FxaQy1inMxhoZwqNdbjoum2P3VVHT2SPT/Z5c NOqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdDIqmYNF76G6c+4dU7X97zM4B8vkN5czH73pn8x5/TYdYvwIzR BUh/OwvXMEI8f4dDQtnTCjy/+ejQgbZ+3O2sDrKJ6w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZrH27B3XExaum5jY3LPXqNmjOaY7VxpWhuEwps2KPAU2kKRI0rsAJzmAJHMtWYuNacxNbvdXO4SKpF9GMeQJYQ= X-Received: by 2002:a24:e983:: with SMTP id f125-v6mr8584126ith.36.1526673813188; Fri, 18 May 2018 13:03:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 2002:a4f:a649:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2018 13:03:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [50.253.99.174] In-Reply-To: <20180518193009.GA88432@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <3a5edc5c-3caa-830b-4bd9-53ff52feb8a7@freebsd.org> <20180518193009.GA88432@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 14:03:32 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5EzZISDx7vVRxb2c4xhue_wOPBo Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver To: Steve Kargl Cc: Andreas Nilsson , FreeBSD X11 mailing list , Current FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 20:03:35 -0000 On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Steve Kargl < sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 09:14:24PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > > On Fri, May 18, 2018, 20:00 Niclas Zeising wrote: > > > > > I propose that we remove the old drm2 driver (sys/dev/drm2) from > > > FreeBSD. I suggest the driver is marked as deprecated in 11.x and > > > removed from 12.0, as was done for other drivers recently. Some > > > background and rationale: > > > > > > The drm2 driver was the original port of a KMS driver to FreeBSD. It > > > was done by Konstantin Belousov to support Intel graphics cards, and > > > later extended by Jean-S=C3=A9bastien P=C3=A9dron as well as Konstant= in to match > > > what's in Linux 3.8. This included unstable support from Haswell, bu= t > > > nothing newer than that. > > > > > > For quite some time now we have had the graphics/drm-stable-kmod and > > > graphics/drm-next-kmods which provides support for modern AMD and Int= el > > > graphics cards. These ports, together with the linuxkpi, or lkpi, ha= s > > > made it significantly easier to port and update our graphics drivers. > > > Further, these new drivers cover the same drivers as the old drm2 > driver. > > > > > > What does the community think? Is there anyone still using the drm2 > > > driver on 12-CURRENT? If so, what is preventing you from switching t= o > > > the port? > > > > > > Thank you > > > Regards > > > -- > > > Niclas Zeising > > > FreeBSD x11/graphics team > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@ > freebsd.org" > > > > > > > Sounds good ( deprecate resp remove ). It causes more confusion and > > problems and it solves nothing. > > > > Check the Makefiles > > % more /usr/ports/graphics/drm-next-kmod/Makefile > > ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=3D amd64 > ONLY_FOR_ARCHS_REASON=3D the new KMS components are only supported on am= d64 > > Not to ia32 friendly. > So do people use i386 for desktop? And need the latest KMS stuff? Warner