From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jan 4 13:55: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D2637B401 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55CB43EC5 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:55:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0130.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.130] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UwFo-0004Z2-00; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:54:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3E1757DA.B6D0922C@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:53:30 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: Brett Glass , Mike Jeays , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On GCC References: <3E120659.3D60EB30@mindspring.com> <200212312041.gBVKfr183480@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> <3E120659.3D60EB30@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104112015.026a5530@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104131212.03837e10@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4677dafe82adde90957ce1cec6dccc8583ca473d225a0f487350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote: > Brett Glass writes: > > No, it is not. It's an apple with a poison pill inside: > > Richard Stallman's vicious and destructive agenda. > > But anyone who cares knows where the pill is located and may eat the > rest of the apple. As true as your agenda crack is, we should not deny > that there is a gift being granted; just not as much as we would like or > as much as they lead people to believe. Look, Brett: If you want to actually *do* something to defend your agenda, rather than complaining, you should select one of the BSD's, and then work on the BSD and the TenDRA compiler, until the TenDRA compiler can compile it. Then become deeply involved in the TenDRA project, to ensure that it continues to meet the needs of the people who will then come out of the woodwork. NetBSD probably has the best seperation of code to make this possible; OpenBSD has the most sympathetic ear, with regard to license arguments, and FreeBSD is the best bet, if you want to ensure a populist adoption. For my money, if it were my axe that I was grinding, I would probably pursue OpenBSD: it'd be more work than NetBSD, but a lot less work than FreeBSD, and you are most likely to find fanatics with strong opinions in the OpenBSD camp, NetBSD camp, and FreeBSD camp (in order of decreasing fanatacism). Let me know when you pick a platform, and start work, and have some dedicated net-connected resources, and at least one other person besides yourself working on it, and I'll be willing to help you turn it into a going project. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message