From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 11:32:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134C106566B for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D078FC17 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B343D2792FF5; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:32:07 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EU-iMKgd2Lwe; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:32:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.9] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FB392792FF4; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:32:06 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <20111210073017.7e24a5aa.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:32:00 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <707ADED8-5417-429B-8EB1-D541068BE710@d3photography.com> References: <258382C6-4904-44EE-86D4-1F8F97559983@d3photography.com> <20111209190305.c6bc60cf.freebsd@edvax.de> <49B5BAFE-22AE-4AB0-A3FD-51FF9B1722DC@d3photography.com> <20111210073017.7e24a5aa.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: OT: C|Net's Download.com adware, spyware, malware hijinkx. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:32:03 -0000 On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:05:05 -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>=20 >> On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Polytropon wrote: >>=20 >>> On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:38:59 -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>>> It's still not malware, it's bloatware. Why would you >>>> not go to the development website to get the program anyway? >>>=20 >>> Uninvitedly adding toolbars, changing web browser >>> home page and default search engine are - in my >>> opinion - malicious acts, so the term "malware" >>> may be correct here. Maybe the term "spyware" is >>> also appropriate, depending on what the "additions" >>> actually do behind the curtain. >>>=20 >>> Note an important thing: When careless users will >>> notice the change, they will maybe blame the authors >>> of the original software, not the distributor. >>> This could do damage to F/O products, at least >>> in "Windows" land. >>>=20 >>> Luckily, those who build from source or use >>> precompiled packages from a trustworthy >>> vendor don't have to care for that stuff. :-) >>=20 >> So, wait, Firefox is Malware? Did you notice that with FF4 >> they changed it so that you didn't get prompted on launch >> it overrides your default but instead it's a checkbox inside >> the installer? >=20 > I've never installed something in "Windows" so my > opinion has limited fact-backup here. I don't even > see from your post _what_ they changed in FF4 - the > default browser? The home page? Additional toolbars? > Some advertising? Hmmm=85 You no longer are prompted on first load of the program to change your = default browser. That's done for you on the installation program. Which is *EXACTLY WHAT I SAID*