From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 5 23:29:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE5C106564A; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 23:29:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49E88FC0A; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 23:29:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxh11 with SMTP id 11so5345482vxh.13 for ; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:29:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+/iblQXHtgOjajNtvn2lFRxTbpIHnYPPvzybWjzbwx4=; b=RpkLEOtzPOrelzDSvGW6fbQ/fiMUMbHGWVmMc9WkULbg0uMxpMtgqyjEe8wfvNGp7t bAo2nUmeXwIIOMwoO0EiN23RQIiDgoaSkrh6mHnfYGEeWJk19RqQEkCLOmujlOkBcdSB XWvjg0B5TwG3zlj0qGavUk36gdqFqFjtr5SrM= Received: by 10.52.92.148 with SMTP id cm20mr4669303vdb.109.1315265395118; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:29:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.180.72 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:29:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4e65b42e.M5K+to11vAdk/UTk%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <201109050933.p859XEbP004874@fire.js.berklix.net> <4E64C35A.50004@FreeBSD.org> <4e65b42e.M5K+to11vAdk/UTk%perryh@pluto.rain.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 19:29:25 -0400 Message-ID: To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ports@freebsd.org, jhs@berklix.com, dougb@freebsd.org, utisoft@gmail.com Subject: Re: sysutils/cfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 23:29:56 -0000 > AFAIK there are maybe half a dozen or so developers who have > recently put themselves on record as supporting the current, > agressive deprecation campaign. =C2=A0The number who have posted in > opposition may well be smaller, so you are probably right if "the > community" is defined as consisting only of those two groups :) I'm probably counted as one of the half-dozen developers here. However... >> >>> Better to deprecate such non urgent ports, & wait a while >> >>> after next release is rolled, to give release users a warning >> >>> & some time to volunteer ... If this will help a number of people this sounds like an excellent suggesti= on! > I somehow doubt that anyone has polled even a modest percentage of > our users -- to find out what they would consider "the best support > possible" -- since AFAIK we have no way of even _identifying_ more > than a tiny fraction of the user base. A) We need better statistics for ports in general B) We need better ways of communicating with our users to find out how people actually use the ports tree. --=20 Eitan Adler