From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 13:32:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D071065676 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7F48FC21 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8IDW2pV065931; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:32:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q8IDW2Th065928; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:32:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:32:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Stas Verberkt In-Reply-To: <75ca1e92e2a51857615e193434898bf5@homey.local> Message-ID: References: <780066C6E2FAB67A997876B7@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <20567.50041.903201.979498@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <75ca1e92e2a51857615e193434898bf5@homey.local> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What replaces csup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:32:03 -0000 On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Stas Verberkt wrote: > Warren Block schreef op : >> The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit >> history. A comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space >> used by the svn checkout. >> > Although I believe the checkouts are bigger, I do not think they have > all the commit history. This is where SVN and CVS differ from systems > like Git or Mercury, which have all the history in a local working > copy. I think the overhead of SVN consists of backups and cached > copies of the previous revision, but I am not quite sure. You're right. 'svn blame', for instance, retrieves the history from the repository. So it's not as bad as it could be... but that 700M number was from a ports tree checkout. My source checkout shows 869M in .svn. That's a pretty large chunk of bandwidth for data that is useless to someone who just wants to do a buildworld, as opposed to actually working on the source.