From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Jan 16 9:30:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD7B37B400; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id SAA04917; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:30:04 +0100 (CET) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GHMeN01036; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:22:40 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from j) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:22:40 +0100 From: Joerg Wunsch To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man Makefile man.c src/etc/mtree BSD.local.dist BSD.usr.dist BSD.x11-4.dist BSD.x11.dist Message-ID: <20020116182240.C757@uriah.heep.sax.de> Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch Mail-Followup-To: Joerg Wunsch , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, arch@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020116183712.G13904@sunbay.com> <20020117053925.A18072-100000@lists.unixathome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020117053925.A18072-100000@lists.unixathome.org>; from dan@langille.org on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 05:57:23AM +1300 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Dan Langille wrote: > > OK, what do others think about this? > > We've had users coming into IRC channels asking about the man page > changes. I don't fully understand the implications yet. From the > comments above, it sounds like each time I issue 'man ls', it's going to > decompress the man page unless I do some tweaking. Is that correct? It's even worse. Decompressing takes relatively little time, and happens for cat pages as well (they are stored as .gz files, too). But it needs to run the troff toolchain each time you want to look at a man page (gzcat .gz | tbl | nroff -mandoc). For larger pages this can take a good bit of time. The largest page i could find here was avr-gcc (basically a full plain GNU gcc man page), which takes 3.5 seconds to format on this 400 MHz K6 machine here. > Please don't force the majority of people to tweak their systems in order > to avoid a theoretical problem for a small minority. I think you might neglect the security problem here. Although i'd like to have the knob in make.conf as well, i wouldn't turn it on unless after trying to understand /which/ security risk i am at. ;-) -- cheers, J"org .-.-. --... ...-- -.. . DL8DTL http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message