From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 15 14:22:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16E71592A60 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 14:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6004B8D226 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 14:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AF3718049 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 09:22:49 -0500 (CDT) To: FreeBSD Mailing List From: Valeri Galtsev Subject: OT: android phone backup NOT to google cloud question Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 09:22:49 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6004B8D226 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.87)[-0.868,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.70)[-0.702,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.75)[0.753,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 14:22:58 -0000 Dear All, My apologies for OT question. I wonder if someone of Android smartphone owners backs up their device and user/application data NOT to google cloud. I just had to get new smartphone, and discovered that short of rooting device or unlocking bootloader and flashing one of "un-googled" android builds I can not find the way to back up everything. To my storage, NOT TO GOOGLE CLOUD that is. adb lets me back up system and applications (and data on add-on flash card), but not application data stored in internal storage (say, off-line maps downloaded by offline map application). I knew when buying android ("gogloid") I'm not becoming an owner of the device. I also know that after flashing one of "un-googled" systems (waiving off the warranty on that device) I will not get rid of all google code. There is proprietary chunk of it the android kernel... Plus proprietary drivers ("blobs" is the word android people use if I'm not mistaken). I also have seen google "appliances" on several "big" (say, class B) networks, not registered in DNS, carrying non-routable ("private address space") IP addresses, which are resolved as google by DNS servers provided to DHCP clients inside these networks... So, no, I have no illusion about getting away from almighty big brother. I just want my data backed up to my device, accessible to me and usable for recovery without need of network access, and existence of some third party servers on the network. I know, Apple iDevices are a bit better data wise, and Apple has [quite] a bit better reputation, though these are still Apple devices, not yours ;-) Any advise, anybody? Thanks a lot in advance! Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++