From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 19 00:32:37 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA10391 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 00:32:37 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA10384 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 00:32:17 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA08032; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 17:15:43 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199507190745.RAA08032@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Killer Apps (was Re: TCL vs...) To: spaz@u.washington.edu (John Utz) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 17:15:42 +0930 (CST) Cc: elh_fbsd@spnet.com, hackers@freebsd.org, elh@spnet.com In-Reply-To: from "John Utz" at Jul 18, 95 11:52:29 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1601 Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk John Utz stands accused of saying: > My personal favorite is the chipmunk tools. They completely > rock!!! It is a collection of digital and analog drag and drop graphical > design and simulation tools. I f*n love it! I predesign my circuits for > school and then print the schematic out via ghostcript. I've actually been quietly waiting for the next annual round of patches for the Chipmunk suite so that I could learn to roll a port 8) I use these tools for digital simulations; the drag-n-drop stuff, as well as the programming language for the modules is great; I can code up PLDs & test them logically without spending hours crouched over the analyser. (If you're into masochism, have a look at the source; it's derived from machine-translated Pascal. Ugh.) What I'd kill for is an integrated schematic-PCB package, but they're no fun to write, and even less fun to support, so I don't hold a lot of hope. (Has anyone tried to do anything serious with the PCB program in the ports collection? Last time I built it, the resultant program killed my window manager, so I put it away 8) (It appears to be a port of an old Atari ST program, and that was _bad_, IIRC) > John Utz spaz@stein.u.washington.edu -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[