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From: jehamby@lightside.com (Jake Hamby)
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: News: CNET announces InterJet as a Finalist for Internet Excellence awards]
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Julian Elischer writes:

> The FreeBSD based interjet is getting some coverage..
> see the attached article under "best server hardware"
> 
> 
> if we can make this a success we'll have some leverage with software
> manufactureres to port server software to freebsd..

Well, if the InterJet doesn't allow shell logins, how are the users going to 
install the server software?

This is my one (and only) complaint with the InterJet, that it tries to shield 
the users from UNIX to the extent that it's not CAPABLE of adding in 
functionality like CGI scripts.  For basic use, however, I'll agree that it's 
way cool for using FreeBSD.

I remember reading a Linux Journal a long time ago (back when I thought Linux 
was cool :), that a company had designed an X-Terminal that was really a 486 (in 
a slim case) running Linux.  I remember thinking that it must be kind of awkward 
having to distribute all that GNU copylefted source code to the people buying 
the X terminal that almost certainly didn't want it.  But let's not get into the 
BSD vs. GNU discussion, okay?  Sorry I brought it up...

What I think is going to win is stuff that sucks but has good marketing, namely:
----------------------------
Best Web design tool:
* NetObjects Fusion 2.0

Best Internet development tool:
* Microsoft Visual J++ 1.0 (how did Visual Basic get on that list anyway!?)

Best Internet server software:
* Lotus Domino 1.5

Best Internet server hardware  :
* Sun Microsystems Ultra Enterprise 2 (doesn't properly suck, but is far too 		
					expensive for small sites)
Best Internet hardware :
* Philips WebTV

Best browsers  or enhancements :
* Netscape Constellation

Best Internet application:
* Corel Office for Java

What I think deserves to win:
-----------------------------
Best Web design tool:
	NONE of them, they all suck (code HTML 3.2 by hand!)

Best Internet development tool:
* Symantec Visual Cafe Pro (too bad it's only for Windows/Mac)
(personally I just use the JDK on UNIX :)

Best Internet server software:
	NONE, they all suck, use Apache :)

Best Internet server hardware  :
* Whistle Communications InterJet 100 (whoohoo, FreeBSD!)

Best browsers  or enhancements :
	NONE, we should go back to Netscape 2.02  :)

Best Internet application:
* Marimba Castanet 1.0 (whoohoo, excellent technology, and I might add,
	Kim Polese ought to win Person of the Year :)

-- Jake