From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 2 23:41:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17837 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 23:41:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scanner.worldgate.com (scanner.worldgate.com [198.161.84.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17829 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 23:41:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcs@znep.com) Received: from znep.com (uucp@localhost) by scanner.worldgate.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id AAA08598; Sun, 3 May 1998 00:41:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by alive.znep.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA01239; Sun, 3 May 1998 00:39:38 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 00:39:37 -0600 (MDT) From: Marc Slemko To: David Greenman cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp.freebsd.org acting funny? In-Reply-To: <199805021341.GAA22661@implode.root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 2 May 1998, David Greenman wrote: > >On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 05:10:32PM -0700, David Greenman wrote: > >> I said: > >> > >> >a much smaller set. -C would be the default in any case, and -F will be > >> >ignored. > >> > >> Oops, actually -C is not the default of course and it will also be > >> ignored. > >> I now know why the problem is occuring with ncftp and it has to do with > >> it not conforming to the RFC regarding the NLST command. I don't think I'm > >> going to work around that. > > > >A large fraction of Unix people use ncftp2. I'd hope you would > >reconsider - or if not, at least add a warning and a suggestion for > >another useable commandline FTP client to the login message. I've not > >yet seen another usable commandline FTP for Unix :-( > > ncftp and ncftp2 work fine. What is broken is that people expect that > passing arguments to the "ls" command will be interpreted on the other > end when the RFC specifically says otherwise. RFC 959 is quite specific > about the behavior of the NLST command (which is what 'ls' does in ncftp): Except that just issuing a "ls" in at least some versions of ncftp2 _doesn't_ work. marcs@valis:~$ ncftp2 ftp.freebsd.org NcFTP 2.4.2 (October 28, 1996), by Mike Gleason, NCEMRSoft. [...] Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. freebsd:/> ls -CF: No such file or directory. There may be some option to stop it from sending that, but... So yes, they do work fine for some definitions of fine and you can just use dir, but... Yes, I sympathize with the pain of broken clients. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message