From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 10 15:11:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA06565 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:11:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from dragonlair.dal.net (root@dragonlair.dal.net [132.249.66.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA06560 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:11:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dt5h1n61.san.rr.com (dt5h1n61.san.rr.com [204.210.31.97]) by dragonlair.dal.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22738 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:11:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199711102311.PAA22738@dragonlair.dal.net> From: "Studded" To: "FreeBSD Stable List" Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 15:11:02 -0800 Reply-To: "Studded" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Old stuff in 2.2.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk First off, I want to emphasize that this is NOT a troll. I'm fully aware of the debates about the legacy stuff in -stable, and I don't want to re-open that can of worms. What I AM intersted in is learning which parts of -stable are out of date (in your opinion, I reserve final judgement :) and how I can replace them in the easiest possible way. My reasons for asking this is that with any kind of luck, I'm going to be installing FreeBSD systems on a commercial level, so I want the best, most secure systems possible, with the fewest steps. The two main things I know about are Perl and curses, so with that in mind, I have the following questions. PLEASE, keep all responses flame free and on topic. Thanks for any help offered, Doug 1. What part or parts of the 2.2.5-Stable code (or 22_releng if you prefer) do *you* consider out of date, and why? 2. What disadvantages does this out of date component (or components) cause? [I'm aware of the perl problems, but I would love some details on curses.] 3. What advantage would importing a new version of that component offer? 4. Is there an easy way to replace the version of that code that comes with -stable with the newer version *before* I do make world, so that I don't need to replace or recompile things in a second step after the make world is done. 5. Related to question 4, I am particularly interested in replacing perl 4 entirely, since I'm short on hd space (yes I know it's cheap nowadays, but I'm broke :). Can anyone tell me if replacing the perl sources that come from the /src directory on the ftp site with perl 5 will accomplish this, or if I'll have to install perl 5 after the make world. Also, assuming I will have to do it in 2 steps, what's the easiest way to delete all of perl 4? *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 4,168 clients and still growing. :-) *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) *** Part of the DALnet IRC network ***