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To: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
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Subject: Re: "Opposing" the "competition" (was: FreeBSD spokesman (was:
  So what happens to FreeBSD now?))
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At 01:40 AM 7/6/2001, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

>Actually, it was not GPL I was referring to, but those 'pre-GPL'
>people described by Mike that would say 'this is public domain, and
>all can use it, except for so and so...'.

I understand. What I'm saying, though, is that the GPL goes far
beyond this by being viral and by INTENTIONALLY trying to sabotage
programmers' livelihoods. 

Also, as DES said in an earlier message in this thread, most users 
of the GPL don't realize what the GPL is really about. They read
only the "preamble," which claims (deceptively) that the GPL makes
software "free" when in fact it encumbers it. (This false recital, 
which cannot be detached from the license, may well be a reason for
a judge to invalidate it.)

--Brett


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