From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Aug 28 19:11:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0209C45B9 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 19:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00705FB5 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 19:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id F36E69C45B8; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 19:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FF49C45B7 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 19:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from cargobay.net (cargobay.net [198.178.123.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D01ADFB4; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 19:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milios@ccsys.com) Received: from [10.34.130.83] (unknown [166.170.26.135]) by cargobay.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9477BE05; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 19:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] switching default Perl to 5.22 From: "Chad J. Milios" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12H321) In-Reply-To: <20150828161121.GW2072@kib.kiev.ua> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:11:27 -0400 Cc: Mathieu Arnold , "ports@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <461477240AFB5D9AD3A9FA63@ogg.in.absolight.net> <20150828150602.GD40589@home.opsec.eu> <6AD029BD068C58EC519930B3@ogg.in.absolight.net> <20150828151334.GE40589@home.opsec.eu> <9730AEEC542187297E7042C6@ogg.in.absolight.net> <0cc0779f12948b7b3788038ba394eb9b@mailbox.ijs.si> <5A6C7397F3A2981378D973A5@ogg.in.absolight.net> <31F640BF991F008D719D2564@ogg.in.absolight.net> <20150828161121.GW2072@kib.kiev.ua> To: Konstantin Belousov X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 19:11:32 -0000 > On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Konstantin Belousov wr= ote: >=20 >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 05:49:30PM +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> +--On 28 ao??t 2015 17:44:55 +0200 Mathieu Arnold wrote= : >> | +--On 28 ao??t 2015 17:34:49 +0200 Mark Martinec >> | wrote: >> || 2015-08-28 17:16, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >> ||> +--On 28 ao??t 2015 17:13:34 +0200 Kurt Jaeger wrote= : >> ||> |> |> In one or two weeks, I'll be switching the default Perl version= =20 >> ||> to >> ||> |> |> 5.22, and from now on, the new Perl will be added at the end of= =20 >> ||> May >> ||> |> |> when released, and switched to at the beginning of September. >> ||> |> |=20 >> ||> |> | mod_perl is still broken with 5.22. Which is very sad. So maybe >> ||> |> | it's premature to switch the default ? >> ||> |>=20 >> ||> |> But, it was building when I added Perl 5.22 in May, when did it=20= >> ||> break ? >> ||> |=20 >> ||> | ohauer marked it broken on the 9th of June. >> ||>=20 >> ||> Oh, maybe it did not work and I told myself "never mind, mod_perl nev= er >> ||> works anyway" >> ||=20 >> || The lang/perl5.20 will still be in ports, for anyone that needs it. >> ||=20 >> || Being heavy Perl users we have switched to 5.22 when it hit the ports,= >> || and I have no complaints about it. >> |=20 >> | Oh, yes, Perl 5.20 will still be until 2018-12-31, as will 5.18 until >> | 2017-12-31 and 5.16 until 2016-12-31 :-) >>=20 >> Scratch that, remove one year for all those 0:-) >=20 > There is definitely some acrimony in the 5.22 release. I only mention > Canary::Stability/stableperl bitter taste. The TeXlive tlmgr tripped > over the cosmetic but annoying regression in 5.22, there were no fix > some time ago, despite the fact that the bug was known for porters for > long time, see http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=3D1132751 (the article > claims that the issue was fixed, I am not sure). >=20 > Previous policy, even if informal, was to wait for 5.xx.1 before bringing > the port to the tree. May be, we should wait for xx.1 before switching > the default port, at least ? I second this. I'm using 5.22 happily, however I think bumping the default i= s premature. I for one appreciate the conservative nature of FreeBSD and don= 't think we should feel compelled to keep up with the Joneses.=