From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Sep 3 05:31:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32B7E1BEFF; Sun, 3 Sep 2017 05:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@komquats.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B540B8318B; Sun, 3 Sep 2017 05:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@komquats.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([96.50.22.10]) by shaw.ca with SMTP id oNVEdmAbaM9gtoNVFdU9Mj; Sat, 02 Sep 2017 23:31:26 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=a+JAzQaF c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=jvE2nwUzI0ECrNeyr98KWA==:117 a=jvE2nwUzI0ECrNeyr98KWA==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=2JCJgTwv5E4A:10 a=aJEGARJCAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=hD4YFKEdfaGV2w1d5Q4A:9 a=YCkxdLnJGCefvND9:21 a=bWC31ir8Lyx8WDP3:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=69xMm2rMUJ9FuF5TBKAH:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22BBA1194; Sat, 2 Sep 2017 22:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v835VNEt023765; Sat, 2 Sep 2017 22:31:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201709030531.v835VNEt023765@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.6 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Johannes M Dieterich cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] future of drm1 in base In-Reply-To: Message from Johannes M Dieterich of "Sat, 02 Sep 2017 22:02:57 -0400." <20170902220257.6667280e@manray.ogolem.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2017 22:31:23 -0700 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfNELgRgbWAzitOM/ygoj3CitBQb9a+ePwQStIXRizhyU/Lhtrb95HCPTEWvT3DOERnwMUjjXaKWBHZ0Dd306/ov6yelqvCKReNOW2eachikjB6nvQqvs NrbsGJIMUjRGv2eqEuSilHmZE9stX8EHShfSuctNyJLTAptlhzKQsfjY21kXj7AgNfC9iMkJDArnjKm2m9uX+Z3KU921aOewj8M+RGOAe87dHFWXcb+H8tuY g87Aam3zyHMMEGeeIp4WWA== X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2017 05:31:29 -0000 In message <20170902220257.6667280e@manray.ogolem.org>, Johannes M Dieterich wr ites: > Dear current/x11, > > please CC me on responses. > > I am writing you on behalf of the FreeBSDDesktop team concerning the > future of drm1 in base. > > drm1 in base supports the following GPUs: > * 3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3+ (tdfx) > * ATI Rage 128 (r128) > * ATI Rage Pro (mach64) > * Matrox G200/G400 (mga) > * Savage3D/MX/IX, Savage4, SuperSavage, Twister, ProSavage[DDR] (savage) > * SIS 300/630/540 and XGI V3XE/V5/V8 (sis) > * VIA Unichrome / Pro (via) > > Since their original introduction up to 2010 these drivers have mostly > been maintained as part of larger cleanups. The newest hardware drm1 > supports dates from 2004, if I am not mistaken, and most of the > hardware is AGP-based. > > With the introduction of graphics/drm-next-kmod which brings its own > drm.ko following the Linux notation, we are facing collisions between > these old drivers' drm.ko and the newer one. > > We would like to hear if anybody still runs CURRENT on machines housing > the above GPUs and relies on drm1. > > If there are still a significant number of people running CURRENT on > this hardware in production, we would be willing to make a > graphics/drm-legacy-kmod port. Thanks for the heads up Johannes. I currently have three machines that each run ATI r128, mach64 and the last one an mga card. I normally use my i945 and i915 laptops (mostly the former) but on occasion I may fire up X on one of the other three. Having a drm-legacy port in the tree would benefit to me. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.