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Date:      Sun, 01 Jul 2001 15:10:32 +0200
From:      "Julian Stacey Jhs@jhs.muc.de" <jhs@jhs.muc.de>
To:        "FreeBSD CTM Master - Chuck Robey" <chuckr@picnic.chuckr.org>
Cc:        ftp-admin@ftp.beastie.tdk.net, root@ftp-master.freebsd.org, ctm-announce@FreeBSD.ORG, ftp-admin@ftp.eu.uu.net, ftp-admin@ns3.saargate.de, "Peter Jeremy" <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au>
Subject:   Re: ctm stoppage 
Message-ID:  <200107011310.f61DAXl20723@jhs.muc.de>
In-Reply-To: Message from Peter Jeremy <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au>  of "Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:05:58 %2B1000." <20010629160557.O95583@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> 

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Here's details of where CTM is failing, & requests for ftp-admin fixes.

Before everyone goes mad ftp'ing the low bandwidth CTM master site
... please wait a bit to allow Chuck & or the ftp-admins at the high
bandwidth sites, time to receive this mail, then fix their mirrors.
We wouldn't want to upset the administrator of the low bandwidth FreeBSD
ctm master site by overloading it :-)

Peter Jeremy wrote:
> I notice from the FTP site that CTM deltas are being generated again,
> but I haven't received any by mail.  The last mail I received was
> cvs-cur.7367.gz part 2/2 on 2001-06-10 08:25 +1000.

ftp.freebsd.org & ftp.de.freebsd.org are stuck way back at:
	pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/cvs-cur/
	-rw-r--r--  1 100  100     106082 May  1 13:55 cvs-cur.7267.gz

As they are so Very out of date, to protect the low bandwidth site,
I suggest people proceed in this order:
	root@ftp-master.freebsd.org to manually update
		ftp-master.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/cvs-cur/
		from ns3.saargate.de
	chuckr@picnic.chuckr.org &/or root@ftp.freebsd.org
		fix the ctm_rmail shell script receiver on
		ftp-master.freebsd.org or ftp.freebsd.org, wherever.
	ftp-admin@ftp.nl.freebsd.org/
		fix pub/FreeBSD/CTM --> development/CTM
		as development/ has no CTM/	
		( Maybe they ran out of disc or took the stale CTM/ off line ?)
	Consumers to wait for mirrors to update, &/or Chuck to announce
	something, then all who want to, can ftp from high bandwidth sites.

I'm just guessing, but one possibility is that ctm_rmail is receiving on
ftp.freebsd.org, but may be being over-ridden by mirroring from
ftp-master.freebsd.org (accesible just to tier one mirrors) ?
Either that or it's maybe a shell script ownership/permissions problem,
as ftp.freebsd.org was rebuilt not so long ago ? 

ftp://ns3.saargate.de/pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/cvs-cur/
(a low bandwidth site, that shouldnt be overloaded ? ) has:
	    197070 Jun 10 08:01 cvs-cur.7368.gz
	  16753327 Jun 25 08:34 cvs-cur.7369.gz
	     47507 Jun 26 00:03 cvs-cur.7370.gz
	    202318 Jun 26 08:03 cvs-cur.7371.gz
	     57903 Jun 26 16:03 cvs-cur.7372.gz
	    275923 Jun 27 00:04 cvs-cur.7373.gz
	     77091 Jun 27 08:02 cvs-cur.7374.gz
	     38235 Jun 27 16:03 cvs-cur.7375.gz
	     37222 Jun 28 00:03 cvs-cur.7376.gz
	    104398 Jun 28 08:03 cvs-cur.7377.gz
	     96164 Jun 28 16:03 cvs-cur.7378.gz
	     13894 Jun 29 00:03 cvs-cur.7379.gz
	    104759 Jun 29 08:03 cvs-cur.7380.gz
	     33482 Jun 29 16:03 cvs-cur.7381.gz
	     60744 Jun 30 00:03 cvs-cur.7382.gz
	     19062 Jun 30 08:03 cvs-cur.7383.gz
 	(& 738[4-6] too but I didnt fetch those)

I just (Sun Jul  1 12:26:12 CEST 2001) received:
	Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 01:04:46 -0500 (CDT) (08:04 CEST)
	Subject: ctm-mail cvs-cur.7386.gz 1/1

BTW Addresses that fail with nslookup:
	ctm.freebsd.org			# Should it exist ?
	ftp.dataplex.net		# old, low bandwidth, Chucks maybe
	ftp.uni-trier.de		# Shame, used to be fast !

Re. people's personal mail reception with ctm_rmail:
As cvs-cur.7369.gz is so big, & it only needs non receipt of a single
slice to disrupt things, it seems quite likely some people will a
ctm_rmail -p piecedir full with all but the odd slice or 2.

Julian
J.Stacey  Munich Unix (FreeBSD, Linux etc) Consultant  http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/
   Ihr Rauchen => mein allergischer Kopfschmerz !  Schnupftabak probieren !

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