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Date:      Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:23:03 -0500
From:      "default" <default013subscriptions@hotmail.com>
To:        "Rohit Panda" <prohit99@yahoo.com>, <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: installation problem
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References:  <20010827121416.63892.qmail@web12802.mail.yahoo.com>

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Rohit,

I don't think that will work...

It looks to me like you are having a hardware issue. Sure you can manually install piece by piece, but if your O/S doesn't recognize  your hard drive controller, or your hard drive itself, you will never be able to boot up normally.

Since  you wrote to me, I am going to assume that you are using some obscure hardware...

Your computer will not recognize /dev/x because it cannot use the hard drive controller (or your hard drive, I would say that its more likely that the problem is the controller).

What you need to do is this:

1. Make images of kern.flp and mfsroot.flp onto floppies (you need a working machine to do this either windows or FreeBSD it doesn't matter). You can boot your machine with these (kern.flp first).

Check out this link: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advanced.html

2. From here on you are going to have problems. If it IS the hard drive controller as I suspect, you will not be able to install from CD-ROM because you cannot use the IDE controller! This is where you will have to make a decision:

a. You can buy a NEW hard drive controller. (I had a Promise DMA 66 controller which I used for awhile until I found the BIOS update for my obscure motherboard...)

b. You can attempt to update and reconfigure your BIOS.
If your drive controller is supported at all, this will work. This would be my first suggestion. Scower the web and find the latest BIOS update, and then be sure that your hard drives are recognized properly by the BIOS.

3. Continue the installation.
If you can get past the part of the installation where you make the partition options, you're free and clear to move on. If like me it says "Cannot detect any hard drives!" then you may want to consider a new controller...

Jordan

P.S.

Keep in mind...

To my knowledge, the boot floppies do not support all of the hardware that the full CD does, so there is a problem there.

I may have mis-understood your problem. If you are getting this message when you boot from the floppies, you may want to just get a new controller, or you could also try using different distributions of FreeBSD...

I would try the STABLE version first, and then work my way down the food chain.

If you can get any version to work, you can use CVSUP to update it to the STABLE version if you like...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rohit Panda 
  To: default 
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:14 AM
  Subject: Re: installation problem


  hi ,

     thanx for the prompt response.i figured that out,but got stuck in another problem.its while using sysinstall after i do the partitioning and other things when i try to install from a ftp site through a HTTP proxy.then i set the parameters in the network configuration window.but just when i press ok after that it gives  error messages ,

  1.unable to create device node /dev/x in /dev!

     the creation of filesystems will be aborted.T

  Then i press ok(as i have no other option)

  2.couldn't create filesystems properly.aborting.then i press ok(as i have no other option)

  3.Installation completed with some errors ..........

  i am not getting what the problem is.Now iam downloading the whole bin directory from the ftp site and trying to install from an msdos partition.Will the bin directory alone be sufficient or will i need some other directories to have FreeBSD function properly.i dont require the src,man,docs ,games,info,xf86336 directories iam sure.because i know what they do.but directories like ports,proflibs,tools,packages,crypto,compat*.* etc.i mean r they really required.i just want to have mainly the networking part working.any suggessions will be highly appreciated.

  thanx

  rohit





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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rohit,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't think that will work...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It looks to me like you are having a hardware 
issue. Sure you can manually install piece by piece, but if your O/S doesn't 
recognize&nbsp; your hard drive controller, or your hard drive itself, you will 
never be able to boot up normally.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Since&nbsp; you wrote to me, I am going to assume 
that you are using some obscure hardware...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your computer will not recognize /dev/x because it 
cannot use the hard drive controller (or your hard drive, I would say that its 
more likely that the problem is the controller).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What you need to do is this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. Make images of kern.flp and mfsroot.flp onto 
floppies (you need a working machine to do this either windows or FreeBSD it 
doesn't matter). You can boot your machine with these (kern.flp 
first).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Check out this link: <A 
href="http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advanced.html">http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advanced.html</A></FONT></DIV>;
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. From here on you are going to have problems. If 
it IS the hard drive controller as I suspect, you will not be able to install 
from CD-ROM because you cannot use the IDE controller! This is where you will 
have to make a decision:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>a. You can buy a NEW hard drive controller. (I had 
a Promise DMA 66 controller which I used for awhile until I found the BIOS 
update for my obscure motherboard...)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>b. You can attempt to update and reconfigure your 
BIOS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If your drive controller is supported at all, this 
will work. This would be my first suggestion. Scower the web and find the latest 
BIOS update, and then be sure that your hard drives are recognized properly by 
the BIOS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. Continue the installation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you can get past the part of the installation 
where you make the partition options, you're free and clear to move on. If like 
me it says "Cannot detect any hard drives!" then you may want to consider a new 
controller...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jordan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.S.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keep in mind...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To my&nbsp;knowledge, the boot floppies do not 
support all of the hardware that the full CD does, so there is a problem 
there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I may have mis-understood your problem. If you are 
getting this message when you boot from the floppies, you may want to just get a 
new controller, or you could also try using different distributions of 
FreeBSD...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would try the STABLE version first, and then work 
my way down the food chain.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you can get any version to work, you can use 
CVSUP to update it to the STABLE version if you like...</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=prohit99@yahoo.com href="mailto:prohit99@yahoo.com">Rohit Panda</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  title=default013subscriptions@hotmail.com 
  href="mailto:default013subscriptions@hotmail.com">default</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 27, 2001 7:14 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: installation problem</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <P>hi ,</P>
  <P>&nbsp;&nbsp; thanx for the prompt response.i figured that out,but got stuck 
  in another problem.its while using sysinstall after i do the partitioning and 
  other things when i try to install from a ftp site through a HTTP proxy.then i 
  set the parameters in the network configuration window.but just when i press 
  ok after that it gives&nbsp; error messages ,</P>
  <P>1.unable to create device node /dev/x in /dev!</P>
  <P>&nbsp;&nbsp; the creation of filesystems will be aborted.T</P>
  <P>Then i press ok(as i have no other option)</P>
  <P>2.couldn't create filesystems properly.aborting.then i press ok(as i have 
  no other option)</P>
  <P>3.Installation completed with some errors ..........</P>
  <P>i am not getting what the problem is.Now iam downloading the whole bin 
  directory from the ftp site and trying to install from an msdos partition.Will 
  the bin directory alone be sufficient or will i need some other directories to 
  have FreeBSD function properly.i dont require the src,man,docs 
  ,games,info,xf86336 directories iam sure.because i know what they do.but 
  directories like ports,proflibs,tools,packages,crypto,compat*.* etc.i mean r 
  they really required.i just want to have mainly the networking part 
  working.any suggessions will be highly appreciated.</P>
  <P>thanx</P>
  <P>rohit</P>
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