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Date:      Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:23:03 -0500
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To:        "Rohit Panda" <prohit99@yahoo.com>, <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: installation problem
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Rohit,

I don't think that will work...

It looks to me like you are having a hardware issue. Sure you can =
manually install piece by piece, but if your O/S doesn't recognize  your =
hard drive controller, or your hard drive itself, you will never be able =
to boot up normally.

Since  you wrote to me, I am going to assume that you are using some =
obscure hardware...

Your computer will not recognize /dev/x because it cannot use the hard =
drive controller (or your hard drive, I would say that its more likely =
that the problem is the controller).

What you need to do is this:

1. Make images of kern.flp and mfsroot.flp onto floppies (you need a =
working machine to do this either windows or FreeBSD it doesn't matter). =
You can boot your machine with these (kern.flp first).

Check out this link: =
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advance=
d.html

2. From here on you are going to have problems. If it IS the hard drive =
controller as I suspect, you will not be able to install from CD-ROM =
because you cannot use the IDE controller! This is where you will have =
to make a decision:

a. You can buy a NEW hard drive controller. (I had a Promise DMA 66 =
controller which I used for awhile until I found the BIOS update for my =
obscure motherboard...)

b. You can attempt to update and reconfigure your BIOS.
If your drive controller is supported at all, this will work. This would =
be my first suggestion. Scower the web and find the latest BIOS update, =
and then be sure that your hard drives are recognized properly by the =
BIOS.

3. Continue the installation.
If you can get past the part of the installation where you make the =
partition options, you're free and clear to move on. If like me it says =
"Cannot detect any hard drives!" then you may want to consider a new =
controller...

Jordan

P.S.

Keep in mind...

To my knowledge, the boot floppies do not support all of the hardware =
that the full CD does, so there is a problem there.

I may have mis-understood your problem. If you are getting this message =
when you boot from the floppies, you may want to just get a new =
controller, or you could also try using different distributions of =
FreeBSD...

I would try the STABLE version first, and then work my way down the food =
chain.

If you can get any version to work, you can use CVSUP to update it to =
the STABLE version if you like...
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rohit Panda=20
  To: default=20
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:14 AM
  Subject: Re: installation problem


  hi ,

     thanx for the prompt response.i figured that out,but got stuck in =
another problem.its while using sysinstall after i do the partitioning =
and other things when i try to install from a ftp site through a HTTP =
proxy.then i set the parameters in the network configuration window.but =
just when i press ok after that it gives  error messages ,

  1.unable to create device node /dev/x in /dev!

     the creation of filesystems will be aborted.T

  Then i press ok(as i have no other option)

  2.couldn't create filesystems properly.aborting.then i press ok(as i =
have no other option)

  3.Installation completed with some errors ..........

  i am not getting what the problem is.Now iam downloading the whole bin =
directory from the ftp site and trying to install from an msdos =
partition.Will the bin directory alone be sufficient or will i need some =
other directories to have FreeBSD function properly.i dont require the =
src,man,docs ,games,info,xf86336 directories iam sure.because i know =
what they do.but directories like =
ports,proflibs,tools,packages,crypto,compat*.* etc.i mean r they really =
required.i just want to have mainly the networking part working.any =
suggessions will be highly appreciated.

  thanx

  rohit





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rohit,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't think that will =
work...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It looks to me like you are having a =
hardware=20
issue. Sure you can manually install piece by piece, but if your O/S =
doesn't=20
recognize&nbsp; your hard drive controller, or your hard drive itself, =
you will=20
never be able to boot up normally.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since&nbsp; you wrote to me, I am going =
to assume=20
that you are using some obscure hardware...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your computer will not recognize /dev/x =
because it=20
cannot use the hard drive controller (or your hard drive, I would say =
that its=20
more likely that the problem is the controller).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What you need to do is =
this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Make images of kern.flp and =
mfsroot.flp onto=20
floppies (you need a working machine to do this either windows or =
FreeBSD it=20
doesn't matter). You can boot your machine with these (kern.flp=20
first).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Check out this link: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install=
-advanced.html">http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook=
/install-advanced.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. From here on you are going to have =
problems. If=20
it IS the hard drive controller as I suspect, you will not be able to =
install=20
from CD-ROM because you cannot use the IDE controller! This is where you =
will=20
have to make a decision:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a. You can buy a NEW hard drive =
controller. (I had=20
a Promise DMA 66 controller which I used for awhile until I found the =
BIOS=20
update for my obscure motherboard...)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>b. You can attempt to update and =
reconfigure your=20
BIOS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If your drive controller is supported =
at all, this=20
will work. This would be my first suggestion. Scower the web and find =
the latest=20
BIOS update, and then be sure that your hard drives are recognized =
properly by=20
the BIOS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Continue the =
installation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you can get past the part of the =
installation=20
where you make the partition options, you're free and clear to move on. =
If like=20
me it says "Cannot detect any hard drives!" then you may want to =
consider a new=20
controller...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jordan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keep in mind...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To my&nbsp;knowledge, the boot floppies =
do not=20
support all of the hardware that the full CD does, so there is a problem =

there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I may have mis-understood your problem. =
If you are=20
getting this message when you boot from the floppies, you may want to =
just get a=20
new controller, or you could also try using different distributions of=20
FreeBSD...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would try the STABLE version first, =
and then work=20
my way down the food chain.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you can get any version to work, you =
can use=20
CVSUP to update it to the STABLE version if you like...</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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  <A title=3Dprohit99@yahoo.com href=3D"mailto:prohit99@yahoo.com">Rohit =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Ddefault013subscriptions@hotmail.com=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 27, 2001 =
7:14=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: installation =
problem</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <P>hi ,</P>
  <P>&nbsp;&nbsp; thanx for the prompt response.i figured that out,but =
got stuck=20
  in another problem.its while using sysinstall after i do the =
partitioning and=20
  other things when i try to install from a ftp site through a HTTP =
proxy.then i=20
  set the parameters in the network configuration window.but just when i =
press=20
  ok after that it gives&nbsp; error messages ,</P>
  <P>1.unable to create device node /dev/x in /dev!</P>
  <P>&nbsp;&nbsp; the creation of filesystems will be aborted.T</P>
  <P>Then i press ok(as i have no other option)</P>
  <P>2.couldn't create filesystems properly.aborting.then i press ok(as =
i have=20
  no other option)</P>
  <P>3.Installation completed with some errors ..........</P>
  <P>i am not getting what the problem is.Now iam downloading the whole =
bin=20
  directory from the ftp site and trying to install from an msdos =
partition.Will=20
  the bin directory alone be sufficient or will i need some other =
directories to=20
  have FreeBSD function properly.i dont require the src,man,docs=20
  ,games,info,xf86336 directories iam sure.because i know what they =
do.but=20
  directories like ports,proflibs,tools,packages,crypto,compat*.* etc.i =
mean r=20
  they really required.i just want to have mainly the networking part=20
  working.any suggessions will be highly appreciated.</P>
  <P>thanx</P>
  <P>rohit</P>
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