From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jun 23 21: 8:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from sea-incorporated.com (caribbean.sea-incorporated.com [209.74.10.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1863337B401 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 21:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sea-incorporated.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sea-incorporated.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5O46T0t031324; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:06:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from geoff@sea-incorporated.com) Received: from localhost (geoff@localhost) by sea-incorporated.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g5O46SKj031321; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:06:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Geoffrey C. Speicher" To: Paul Herman Cc: "Matthew D. Fuller" , Subject: Re: bug in pw, -STABLE [patch] In-Reply-To: <20020623165244.X39062-100000@mammoth.eat.frenchfries.net> Message-ID: <20020623233731.L31276-100000@sea-incorporated.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Paul Herman wrote: > You see the problem as a deficiency in the implementation itself, > and wish to protect the user from shooting themselves in the foot. > > Not only do I think that's impossible[*], I choose to fight for my > right to shoot myself in the foot as quickly and efficiently as > possible, but that's where we'll disagree, and I'll just leave it > at that and wish you a good night's sleep. Not to be snooty, but there will always be plenty of ways for you to shoot yourself in the foot if you want to play that way. For regular users of pw(8) who don't want to get shot, it needs to be fixed when used within its intended bounds. As far as I'm concerned, it comes down to what is most feasible to implement correctly without an unreasonably large effort. In reality, it comes down to how a committer would like to see it work, since the committers are the ones who ultimately have to deal with and are responsible for the change. So we either need to have a compelling solution or get a committer to step in and make up our minds for us. Geoff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message