From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 23 14:03:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CD81065676; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [217.20.163.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494458FC35; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64717744015; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:03:06 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at falcon.cybervisiontech.com Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QPEU9kYDXeWT; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:03:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [10.2.1.87] (gateway.cybervisiontech.com.ua [88.81.251.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BABC744001; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:03:05 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <480F4198.2030708@icyb.net.ua> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:03:04 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080311) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pav@FreeBSD.org References: <480E3F5E.3060501@icyb.net.ua> <1208903822.1548.62.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <480F3B39.3090702@icyb.net.ua> <1208957957.58820.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> In-Reply-To: <1208957957.58820.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: purely package-based/oriented solution X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:03:09 -0000 on 23/04/2008 16:39 Pav Lucistnik said the following: > Andriy Gapon píše v st 23. 04. 2008 v 16:35 +0300: >> on 23/04/2008 01:37 Pav Lucistnik said the following: >>> Andriy Gapon píše v út 22. 04. 2008 v 22:41 +0300: >>>> Sorry if this is something obvious or a FAQ. >>>> >>>> Is there a tool for purely package-based management of third-party software? >>>> That is, something that meets the following criteria: >>>> 1. doesn't require ports tree >>>> 2. works similarly to package installation in FreeBSD installer >>>> 3. can properly handle upgrading packages (including dependencies) >>>> 4. can check remote package repositories and, based on timestamp or >>>> INDEX, can find new versions for installed packages >>>> 5. can verify that all dependencies would be met before downloading all >>>> packages in full (e.g. based on INDEX data or can download initial >>>> blocks of packages, so that package metadata could be extracted and >>>> examined). >>> portupgrade should be able to do 1-4, I don't know if 5 too. >>> >> BTW, strange thing: >> $ portupgrade -a -PP >> ... >> ** Port marked as IGNORE: devel/linux_kdump: >> does not build with the default linux base, use the package instead >> >> What's this about? :-) I do say to use packages only. > > Guess portupgrade still looks at the ports tree. What happens if you try > to rm -rf /usr/ports first? Well, I want to keep them. I.e. I am actually looking for a tool that would be agnostic of ports, but I still want to keep ports for things that I'd rather customize myself. But for the sake of experiment I will try mv-ing ports of the way and see what happens. -- Andriy Gapon