From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 4 20:58:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8E616A631 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:58:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@dwpc.dwlabs.ca) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FE843D49 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:58:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duane@dwpc.dwlabs.ca) Received: from ip04.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.20]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J0C00JQ4SYSBTB1@mta01.eastlink.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:59:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-199-230.eastlink.ca (HELO dwpc.dwlabs.ca) ([24.224.199.230]) by ip04.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:58:55 -0300 Received: from dwpc.dwlabs.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dwpc.dwlabs.ca (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k54KwCwI004819; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:58:12 -0300 (ADT envelope-from duane@dwpc.dwlabs.ca) Received: (from duane@localhost) by dwpc.dwlabs.ca (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k54KwBlH004818; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:58:11 -0300 (ADT envelope-from duane) Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:58:11 -0300 From: Duane Whitty In-reply-to: To: Jack Stone Message-id: <20060604205811.GB960@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:58:57 -0000 On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 02:57:38PM -0500, Jack Stone wrote: > >From: "Jack Stone" > >To: wmoran@collaborativefusion.com > >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files > >Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500 > > > >>From: Bill Moran > >>To: "Jack Stone" > >>CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files > >>Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400 > >> > >>"Jack Stone" wrote: > >> > >>> >From: Chris Hill > >>> >To: Jack Stone > >>> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files > >>> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT) > >>> > > >>> >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote: > >>> > > >>> >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them. > >>> > > >>> >[...] > >>> > > >>> >>Here are the files and the error message: > >>> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not > >>permitted > >>> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted > >>> > > >>> >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set: > >>> > > >>> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm > >>> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm > >>> > > >>> >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag > >>would > >>> >be set, but it's something to try. > >>> > > >>> >HTH. > >>> > > >>> >-- > >>> >Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > >>> > >>> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy! > >> > >>If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should delete, and > >>they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and fsck the > >>partition. > >> > >>I had this happen a number of years ago. We had dirty power and the > >>system > >>would reboot on occasion during brownout. We finally got UPS on the > >>system, > >>but months later we had files that wouldn't delete. The only way we > >>finally > >>got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck. I expect the disk > >>suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it took time > >>before we noticed. > >> > >>Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the files > >>open. > >> > >>HTH. > >> > >>-- > >>Bill Moran > >> > > > >Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very mysteries. > >A free cigar to anyone who solves this one! > > > > Since I learned I could "mv" the directory that contains the 2 files, I > tried to move it to another partition, figuring I had a solution IF I could > only do that. > > Here's the new error when I tried to move the directory from "/" to /usr > > mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link > > Does this new hint stike any bells? > > THX > Jack > Hi, Since you can move the directory can you move (rename) the file? If you can mv just the files can you access/modify the files? Because of the cross-device link error message maybe this is hard link related? Any files with the same name floating around? Obviously this isn't normal hard link behaviour but maybe a link was somehow damaged? Best Regards, Duane Whitty -- duane@dwlabs.ca