From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 14 14:34:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C4937B406 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:34:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org) Received: by sharmas.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 81E885E107; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:34:32 -0700 From: Arun Sharma To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perens Replies (was Ivan Leybovich) Message-ID: <20010614143432.A14721@sharmas.dhs.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010613143637.047be740@localhost> <20010613144223.A17646@perens.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010613144223.A17646@perens.com>; from bruce@perens.com on Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 02:42:23PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 02:42:23PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: > Carly and the management team are very supportive of my Linux and Open > Source activities. One reason that this is is easy for HP is because > we make hardware, which has a very clear revenue return attached to > it. Software is generally an enabler for hardware sales rather than a > goal in itself. Bruce, I'd like to note that this distinction between hardware and software is blurring quite a bit recently. A lot of companies can make beige boxes and cheap $9.99 10/100 PCI Network cards. The real intellectual property that companies like HP have seems to be shifting towards their processor and system design [1]. Now, that design has some properties that are very similar to the software you're talking about. Namely, it costs a lot to produce, but very easy to replicate in Taiwan. Have you had a chance to talk with Carly about open sourcing these things ? I'd love to hear what she has to say about it. I used to have a lot of problems reconciling my closed source day job with writing software driven by the GNU philosophy. I wonder how you're managing some of these contradictions (between what HP does and what the author of GPL says). -Arun [1] HP also seems to have significant IP in software also, in HP-UX and the IA-64 compilers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message