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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 18:46:13 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org pkgbase@freebsd.org> On Behalf Of Garrett Wollman > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 1:29 PM > To: Cy Schubert > Cc: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base >=20 > > Which begs the question, if we're simply replacing freebsd-update = and > > it does most of what we want why the extra effort? >=20 > Anyone who isn't using a completely stock make.conf/src.conf is = already > replacing freebsd-update, and it would be much *less* effort to have = only > one mechanism to distribute software rather than two. >=20 > I'd like to have a better installation process, too, because that = would make it > much easier to redeploy servers. But most of our servers are file = servers > with unique user data so "redeploy" is not a relevant operation much = of the > time. >=20 > -GAWollman >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-pkgbase > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-pkgbase- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" This was a big motivator for us to merge base pkgs into poudriere. In my = career I've written 4 build systems that all do some variation of = buildworld/kernel + poudriere + create ISO + create updates. I'm sure = plenty of other FreeBSD consumers have done the same, and frankly its = getting old. At least now I'm down to poudriere + create ISO only.=20 And my sympathies to anybody still having to use freebsd-update as part = of their custom updating process =F0=9F=98=89 --=20 Kris Moore Vice President of Engineering iXsystems, Inc Ph: (408) 943-4100 Ph: (408) 943-4101 The Groundbreaking TrueNAS M-Series - Enterprise Storage & Servers Driven By Open Source