From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 3 10:34:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FEB16A4CF for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 10:34:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from n068.sc1.cp.net (h14.rdg.cp.net [209.228.29.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CA343D1F for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 10:34:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (82.3.65.58) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.0.027.3-1) id 40C8C7A00032823F; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 10:33:59 +0000 In-Reply-To: <40E676EA.3080001@trio.plala.or.jp> References: <40E1CAAD.3000303@minimum.se> <40E1CF00.2090601@netli.com> <1088557263.3528.102.camel@host-83-146-2-180.bulldogdsl.com> <72A1AE29-CA60-11D8-988E-000A95C969C6@zumbrunn.com> <9B616D82-CB28-11D8-9145-000D9335C6A0@yahoo.com.au> <40E40385.9030401@trio.plala.or.jp> <40E4BA4E.4060007@trio.plala.or.jp> <40E676EA.3080001@trio.plala.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7E0F1AFE-CCDC-11D8-B2DB-000D93ACEE20@cran.org.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bruce Cran Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 11:33:58 +0100 To: Eitarou Kamo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and MacOS X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 10:34:01 -0000 On 3 Jul 2004, at 10:05, Eitarou Kamo wrote: > Hi John and all, > > John Von Essen wrote: > >> >> Since OPENSTEP kernel had an x86 port, its not to far off to conclude >> that darwin could be run on x86 - but I think all the x86 talk was >> just hypothetical - would only happen in real life if some hardcore >> coders had alot of spare time on their hands... > > Apple will not invest it, I wonder..... > No, Apple _does_ invest the money and time to create an x86 port: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/ That is only the kernel and command-line utilities, there's no GUI included. http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/arch_xnu.html provides a good overview of the kernel. Apple did have a port of MacOS X to x86 (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/09/02/apples_x86_os_named_sized/), I would guess they were waiting to see which CPU they were going to use after the G3, since Motorola were being a little slow in making faster PowerPC CPUs. They were considering switching to an Intel-based line; in the end they went with IBM and their PPC970, so I would think it's fairly unlikely we'll now ever see a version (of the GUI) for x86. -- Bruce Cran