From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 16:01:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B449116A4D2 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:01:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D90343D1D for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:01:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from triton.int.mirrorimage.net ([172.17.254.26]) by mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02546 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 12:01:40 -0400 Received: by triton.int.mirrorimage.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 12:01:44 -0400 Received: from keyslapper.org (LEBLANC [10.10.4.59]) by triton.int.mirrorimage.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MJT1GA4V; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 12:01:38 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <40C49168.9070709@keyslapper.org> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:01:44 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20040607085739.352eba17.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <200406071511.i57FB3Ol073942@adsl-68-76-19-75.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net> <20040607112911.476b0578.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20040607112911.476b0578.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ISPs blocking SMTP connections from dynamic IP address space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:01:46 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > "Lucas Holt" wrote: > >>Just make sure they are truly dynamic ips. Many people block ips identified >>as "DSL" connections. Those are not necessarily dynamic ip based. > > > It's wonderful that most ISPs haven't figured out how to play nicely with the > rest of the world. I only block when I can verify that it IS a dhcp addy. > There are also blocklists that specifically list verified dynamic IPs. > > It would be nice if all ISPs could agree on a convention that could be used to > identify these machines. Such as using .dhcp. so it > could be easily filtered. I think something has changed in this respect lately. I've sent close to a dozen messages to the FreeBSD list since Saturday, and not one has gotten through. I'm running sendmail on FreeBSD 4.10, and relaying through Verizon's authenticated SMTP system. The thing is that I am also using Zoneedit to convince the world that keyslapper.org is at my current IP, and this is reset every time I get a new IP. This means that when a relay does a lookup on the message, it sees it is a DHCP (DSL) address, and the message is stopped - by the FreeBSD list server in many cases. I've even sent mail from Netscape, using the Verizon SMTP relay directly, and the same thing happens. Ditto from work. Just because leblanc.eng.mirrorimage.net is on a private ip and doesn't resolve outside doesn't mean it isn't a real legitimate system. It's pretty annoying. Since Friday afternoon, all email I've sent to addresses other than hotmail, my employer, and internally, have been blocked somewhere. If this email makes it to the list, it will be the first in awhile. Lou