From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 27 05:31:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EB316A420; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:31:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2E743D4C; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:31:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0R5VLmH058839; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:31:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:31:53 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20060126.223153.32776756.imp@bsdimp.com> To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20060127045950.GA72049@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20060127041412.GA71839@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20060127043843.GA58589@nagual.pp.ru> <20060127045950.GA72049@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:31:21 -0700 (MST) Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, ache@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, csjp@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, jasone@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/stdlib malloc.c X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:31:45 -0000 In message: <20060127045950.GA72049@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Steve Kargl writes: : On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 07:38:43AM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: : > On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 08:14:12PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: : > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 06:24:03AM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: : > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 09:15:02PM -0600, Christian S.J. Peron wrote: : > > > > These malloc debugging/stats features have been invaluable. I vote to : > > > > accept the performance hit in exchange for useful debugging/stats : > > > > features in -CURRENT, and disable them in -STABLE/-RELEASE when they are : > > > > ready. : > > > : > > > You misread me a bit. I don't vote to remove debug/stats ON _by_default_ : > > > for -current, I vote to remove them via special malloc options for whom : > > > who don't need it even in -current. : > > > : > > : > > Don't use -current if you can't tolerate the minor performance : > > hit associated with making FreeBSD better. : > : > Don't ever try to tell anybody what to do if you don't know all his : > circumstacnes. Especially when being not asked. : > : : I stand by my initial statement. If you can't tolerate : temporary measures in -current that are performance hits and : which will ultimate make FreeBSD better, then don't run -current. : : You have 4.x, 5.x, and 6.x to choose. CURRENT is explicitly optimized for the convenience of the developer community. Releases and branches are optimized for performance and user happiness. Warner