From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 16:09:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6ECA37B401; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D03B43F93; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:09:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h67N97hR060478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:09:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h67N95w6089127 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:09:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h67N95gt033231; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:09:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h67N942T033230; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:09:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:09:04 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: ticso@cicely.de, Paul Richards , joe@freebsd.org, arch@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030707230903.GN31285@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20030707071617.GD44762@funkthat.com> <20030707194747.GA21209@survey.codeburst.net> <20030707221544.GL31285@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030707223559.GL44762@funkthat.com> <20030707224630.GM31285@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030707225416.GM44762@funkthat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030707225416.GM44762@funkthat.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: usb module orginization X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:09:18 -0000 On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 03:54:16PM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Bernd Walter wrote this message on Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 00:46 +0200: > > On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 03:35:59PM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > Bernd Walter wrote this message on Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 00:15 +0200: > > > > Also it would be a great idea to split the usb module into usb, ehci, > > > > ohci, uhci and maybe uhub. > > > > > > -current is broken wrt split usb modules. when you set usbd_enable="YES" > > > in rc.conf, it only loads the usb device. If you then load ugen or any > > > other device, any existing devices are not reprobed. You have to unplug > > > and replug the device back in. So if you broke uhub out, then you'd > > > be in even work trouble since you can't disconnect the internal hub to > > > magicly make it appear. > > > > uhub support is mandantory - just make it an dependency of usb. > > Naturally usb need to be a dependency to the controller modules. > > but usb is a dependancy of uhub. so, which do you load first? :) Mmm - yes a bad idea - Ok don't split usb and uhub until there is a good solution on how this can be handled. > > For the reprobing thing - it's easy to write a userland tool which > > cycles the port to get a reprobe - I thought about writing one since a > > while. > > why doesn't usbd do this? we shouldn't need another program to do > this. If a user wants to reprobe or reset a device he needs a command line tool not a daemon. usbd is a daemon and idealy it should be replaced by devd some day. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de