From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Sat Jul 2 01:30:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2997B8F035 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2016 01:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@johnea.net) Received: from mail.johnea.net (johnea.net [70.167.123.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE2B82CD7 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2016 01:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@johnea.net) Received: from [192.168.100.193] (worker500.johnea.net [192.168.100.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.johnea.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB3665F236DD for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 18:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HOPE - Re: Stuff I don't understand, and maybe never will. To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org References: <44255.1467112146@server1.tristatelogic.com> <20160630203013.1038690d@max-BSD> From: freebsd@johnea.net Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 18:21:24 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160630203013.1038690d@max-BSD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2016 01:30:27 -0000 On 2016-06-30 11:30, maxnix wrote: > I hope that, in a world where telecommunication devices are more and > more pervasive, in schools will teach to kids not only how to work with > computers, but even how computers work. Unfortunately, this is also not too common. I have a son in High School in California, most schools think tech training means buying a bunch of ipads, or teaching the kids to use M$ word. As a note on organizing, I would encourage anyone who is able, to attend the "Hackers On Planet Earth" conference in Manhattan in late July: https://xi.hope.net/schedule.html There is a presentation on this subject by Richard Stallman: "Freedom and Privacy in Our Lives, Our Governments, and Our Schools" This is a great conference in general. If you are able, come mingle and communicate with similarly informed and motivated people. johnea